Comments on: Deconstructing the Google-Verizon Framework http://techliberation.com/2010/08/10/deconstructing-the-google-verizon-framework/ Keeping politicians' hands off the Net & everything else related to technology Tue, 03 Feb 2015 17:54:00 +0000 hourly 1 By: Lo que aprendimos del Google-Verizon affair http://techliberation.com/2010/08/10/deconstructing-the-google-verizon-framework/comment-page-1/#comment-70432 Wed, 08 Sep 2010 17:03:39 +0000 http://techliberation.com/?p=31053#comment-70432 […] cierto es que el policy statement de Google/Verizon tiene muchas coincidencias con la propuesta que la FCC hizo pública el pasado octubre para comentarios. Ambas proscriben el […]

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By: FCC “Net Neutrality” Update http://techliberation.com/2010/08/10/deconstructing-the-google-verizon-framework/comment-page-1/#comment-70274 Thu, 02 Sep 2010 22:00:45 +0000 http://techliberation.com/?p=31053#comment-70274 […] plan actually looked a lot like the FCC’s original outline for regulation. Nevertheless, the proposal was attacked by many […]

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By: FCC’s Neutrality Regulation Express Sidetracked | The Foundry: Conservative Policy News. http://techliberation.com/2010/08/10/deconstructing-the-google-verizon-framework/comment-page-1/#comment-70264 Thu, 02 Sep 2010 17:41:55 +0000 http://techliberation.com/?p=31053#comment-70264 […] (such as Internet-based video services and phone services) from the rules.The plan actually looked a lot like the FCC’s original outline for regulation. Nevertheless, the proposal was attacked by many […]

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By: Die wunderbare Welt von Isotopp http://techliberation.com/2010/08/10/deconstructing-the-google-verizon-framework/comment-page-1/#comment-69937 Sat, 14 Aug 2010 13:51:35 +0000 http://techliberation.com/?p=31053#comment-69937 Netzneutralität – was ist okay und was ist es nicht?…

(Teil 3, siehe auch Teil1 und Teil 2, Petition hier) Mein DSL hat 16 MBit im Downstream. Das heißt, ich bekomme 16 000 000 Bit/s geliefert, also etwas unter 2 Megabyte pro Sekunde. Ein Tag hat 86400 Sekunden und würde ich meinen Download rund um die Uh…

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By: Tristanthomas http://techliberation.com/2010/08/10/deconstructing-the-google-verizon-framework/comment-page-1/#comment-69935 Sat, 14 Aug 2010 13:26:52 +0000 http://techliberation.com/?p=31053#comment-69935 You know everyone is painting an evil picture on Google when most of us don't understand whats really going on. All Google is saying is that the internet is young and that the government should not place any restrictions on it as of yet.

Google truly does no evil. Or do they? There is this one article I read at called “How doing Business With Google Almost Killed A Company”. That is probably the most evil thing Google has ever done.

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By: Jim Harper http://techliberation.com/2010/08/10/deconstructing-the-google-verizon-framework/comment-page-1/#comment-69917 Fri, 13 Aug 2010 05:21:52 +0000 http://techliberation.com/?p=31053#comment-69917 Jim Harper supports net neutrality. He just doesn't support net neutrality *regulation.* The question to me is whether politicians and regulators (who are subject to plenty o' corporate influence in Washington) can make better decisions than engineers at ISPs under market pressure to serve consumers.

Thanks for the kind word, John.

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By: Notfan01 http://techliberation.com/2010/08/10/deconstructing-the-google-verizon-framework/comment-page-1/#comment-69904 Thu, 12 Aug 2010 22:39:30 +0000 http://techliberation.com/?p=31053#comment-69904 Nice to see the far right wing posing as “the technology liberation front.” Ha!

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By: Tommygogo http://techliberation.com/2010/08/10/deconstructing-the-google-verizon-framework/comment-page-1/#comment-69902 Thu, 12 Aug 2010 21:34:43 +0000 http://techliberation.com/?p=31053#comment-69902 Something to consider is the 886% year-to-year increase in Google's Android penetration of the world mobile market.

What will stop Google from using this “mark up legislative proposal” to take the next step and legislate Android the incumbent mobile industry operating system/GUI?

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By: David Shellabarger http://techliberation.com/2010/08/10/deconstructing-the-google-verizon-framework/comment-page-1/#comment-69892 Thu, 12 Aug 2010 19:26:00 +0000 http://techliberation.com/?p=31053#comment-69892 I don't know why people are all upset about this “managed services” clause. AOL had this for years in the early days of the internet and you know what? It died.

Have a little faith in the internet, people! Its not a fragile glass container that Comcast and Verizon can smash at will. We've seen this before and it was no big deal.
People use the Internet because they prefer it to private networks. No regulations required.

I think we should have net neutrality on wired networks because there is not enough competition but the “managed services” complaint sounds like its from someone who has instantly forgotten all Internet history.

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By: Links Digest for August 12th | The Money Mashup http://techliberation.com/2010/08/10/deconstructing-the-google-verizon-framework/comment-page-1/#comment-69889 Thu, 12 Aug 2010 14:01:32 +0000 http://techliberation.com/?p=31053#comment-69889 […] Deconstructing the Google-Verizon Framework – The FCC Notice of Proposed Rulemaking and the Google/Verizon Net Neutrality proposal are very similar. […]

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By: Deconstructing the Google-Verizon Framework (Larry Downes/Technology Liberation Front) | Best Portable Generators http://techliberation.com/2010/08/10/deconstructing-the-google-verizon-framework/comment-page-1/#comment-69886 Thu, 12 Aug 2010 13:45:56 +0000 http://techliberation.com/?p=31053#comment-69886 […] Downes / Technology Liberation Front:Deconstructing the Google-Verizon Framework  —  I’ve just published a long analysis for CNET of the proposed legislative […]

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By: All Your Tubes Are Belong to Googlizon | The Libertarian Standard http://techliberation.com/2010/08/10/deconstructing-the-google-verizon-framework/comment-page-1/#comment-69882 Thu, 12 Aug 2010 10:32:15 +0000 http://techliberation.com/?p=31053#comment-69882 […] to get a few facts straight.  Larry Downes provides the best analysis I’ve yet seen in “Deconstructing the Google-Verizon Framework” at TechLiberation.com and “What the Google-Verizon proposal really says” at CNET. (There’s […]

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By: Deconstructing the Google-Verizon Framework (Larry Downes/Technology Liberation Front) | HD Digital Video Cameras http://techliberation.com/2010/08/10/deconstructing-the-google-verizon-framework/comment-page-1/#comment-69876 Thu, 12 Aug 2010 08:50:39 +0000 http://techliberation.com/?p=31053#comment-69876 […] Downes / Technology Liberation Front:Deconstructing the Google-Verizon Framework  —  I’ve just published a long analysis for CNET of the proposed legislative […]

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By: john http://techliberation.com/2010/08/10/deconstructing-the-google-verizon-framework/comment-page-1/#comment-69796 Wed, 11 Aug 2010 00:43:11 +0000 http://techliberation.com/?p=31053#comment-69796 The Google/Verizon version of “managed services” goes much further than private IP-based services, and expressly allows such services to be nothing more than prioritized Internet traffic, provided that the service is somehow “distinguishable.”

All adjudication is “case-by-case,” but if the only authority is case-by-case, no one can rely on the the precedent of one adjudication being applied predictably.

I support net neutrality, and Jim Harper doesn't, but I liked his take on this as attempted “regulatory capture.”

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