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By: fishbane

fishbane — Sat, 16 Jan 2010 21:45:51 +0000

Takingnotice is conflating privacy with identity for reasons that are beyond me. (And I'm alway amused with folks who use a pseudonym to attack anonymous communication.)

Identity is not the same thing as is-a-person verification, is not the same thing as has-a.edu-email-address, is not the same thing as has-government-id.

I get why people viscerally wish to project that sort of thing and pine for small-town reputation, but. It. Is. Dead. Outside of a small town, and even there, we still have intertubes. Getting used to the idea that people might lie via typing is going to be easier, and ultimately safer, than trying to piggyback is-a-person identity on some existing verification scheme that doesn't always work, either.

True fact: For about three years, I had what amounted to a fake ID by accident. The California DMV screwed up and associated me with someone else's SSN. I didn't notice until applying for credit. Convincing the DMV of the problem was easy; getting them to do something about it was rather more annoying. I wonder if "Adventures in Heroic Paperwork" could become a reality show, or perhaps literary genre. This identity-blur caused by a state actor is still causing problems 16 years after it first happened. (Seven or 10 years? Hah.)

By: fishbane

fishbane — Sat, 16 Jan 2010 16:45:51 +0000

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By: fredleeflang

fredleeflang — Sat, 16 Jan 2010 11:23:46 +0000

Oops… I posted the wrong link Sorry about that, the correct link is http://wordpress.3dn.nl/2010/01/15/privacy-anon….

By: fredleeflang

fredleeflang — Sat, 16 Jan 2010 11:21:47 +0000

Hi Adam,

I'm currently writing a long series of articles on Identity Management and only just recently wrote an article called 'Privacy vs. Anonimity' where I described a bit more formally on http://wordpress.3dn.nl/2010/01/14/google-china/. It looks like you have a similar take on the subject, would you like to participate in what I plan to make a project out of in the long run?

By: takingnotice

takingnotice — Sat, 16 Jan 2010 05:58:46 +0000

The foundation principles which effect privacy using Facebook have a major flaw. There is no verification of any users true identity. Therefore, profiles are too easily cloned and there are exposures to even non-Facebook people when it is too easy to be an imposter of any name with any picture. Making those personal attributes that are easy to steal and clone make public publishing a bigger problem. Remember, when Facebook started it required a college email address. This was a much better verification of a true identity associated with a name and picture.

By: fishbane

fishbane — Sat, 16 Jan 2010 02:01:23 +0000

I think the backlash is easier than that to explain: Zuckerberg was clearly being weasely with is "in line with public expectations" bit. "The public" expected what Facebook was already doing. They then unilaterally redefined access controls on things that people had entrusted to them with a different set of access controls.

People don't like their underwear suddenly becoming see-through and then telling them that they expected it to do so.

The moral for Facebook and related services is (or should be) that if you want to change defaults, that's one thing, but don't retroactively modify prior settings.

The moral for consumers, of course, is not to trust companies like Facebook.

By: Thomas

Thomas — Fri, 15 Jan 2010 22:51:30 +0000

Adam,
When seat belts were first introduced on cars, it took a while to get people to used them. It took lots of government coercion to make us wear them. Now it we do it automatically, and it is even socially acceptable to suggest to others that they buckle up.

To assume that privacy isn't worth protecting because consumers don't seem to value it is oversimplifying the issue, which is Facebook's big mistake.