http://techliberation.com/2009/12/21/the-%e2%80%9cproblem-of-proportionality%e2%80%9d-in-the-debate-over-net-neutrality/ Keeping politicians' hands off the Net & everything else related to technology Sun, 27 May 2012 22:43:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 http://techliberation.com/2009/12/21/the-%e2%80%9cproblem-of-proportionality%e2%80%9d-in-the-debate-over-net-neutrality/comment-page-1/#comment-65193 Steve R. Tue, 29 Dec 2009 19:12:40 +0000 http://techliberation.com/?p=24566#comment-65193 <p>Casually reviewing various news sources discloses many occurrences of companies attempting to game the system to deprive customers of choice. TechDirt is reporting that <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20091228/1801247525.shtml" rel="nofollow">CenturyLink Won't Provide DSL, Wants To Block Competitor From Getting Fed Funds To Offer Wireless</a>. The underlying article by Randy King writes: <i>"But CenturyLink would have none of it, despite the fact it was not willing to provide service to those unserved areas either. The phone company filed an objection with the agency administering the stimulus program claiming ESI would be overbuilding a competing broadband provider in its service area:"</i> Clearly, if companies are willing to manipulate the the availability of service and eliminate the freedom of choice, it doesn't take much intelligence to deduce that companies will make a mockery of complying with Net Neutrality principles. The evidence is there, all one has to do is look and disclose.</p> Casually reviewing various news sources discloses many occurrences of companies attempting to game the system to deprive customers of choice. TechDirt is reporting that CenturyLink Won't Provide DSL, Wants To Block Competitor From Getting Fed Funds To Offer Wireless. The underlying article by Randy King writes: “But CenturyLink would have none of it, despite the fact it was not willing to provide service to those unserved areas either. The phone company filed an objection with the agency administering the stimulus program claiming ESI would be overbuilding a competing broadband provider in its service area:” Clearly, if companies are willing to manipulate the the availability of service and eliminate the freedom of choice, it doesn't take much intelligence to deduce that companies will make a mockery of complying with Net Neutrality principles. The evidence is there, all one has to do is look and disclose.

]]> http://techliberation.com/2009/12/21/the-%e2%80%9cproblem-of-proportionality%e2%80%9d-in-the-debate-over-net-neutrality/comment-page-1/#comment-64389 Steve R. Tue, 29 Dec 2009 14:12:40 +0000 http://techliberation.com/?p=24566#comment-64389 <p>Casually reviewing various news sources discloses many occurrences of companies attempting to game the system to deprive customers of choice. TechDirt is reporting that <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20091228/1801247525.shtml" rel="nofollow">CenturyLink Won't Provide DSL, Wants To Block Competitor From Getting Fed Funds To Offer Wireless</a>. The underlying article by Randy King writes: <i>"But CenturyLink would have none of it, despite the fact it was not willing to provide service to those unserved areas either. The phone company filed an objection with the agency administering the stimulus program claiming ESI would be overbuilding a competing broadband provider in its service area:"</i> Clearly, if companies are willing to manipulate the the availability of service, it doesn't take much intelligence to deduce that companies will also not abide to the concepts of Net Neutrality. The evidence is there, all you have to do is look and disclose.</p> Casually reviewing various news sources discloses many occurrences of companies attempting to game the system to deprive customers of choice. TechDirt is reporting that CenturyLink Won't Provide DSL, Wants To Block Competitor From Getting Fed Funds To Offer Wireless. The underlying article by Randy King writes: “But CenturyLink would have none of it, despite the fact it was not willing to provide service to those unserved areas either. The phone company filed an objection with the agency administering the stimulus program claiming ESI would be overbuilding a competing broadband provider in its service area:” Clearly, if companies are willing to manipulate the the availability of service, it doesn't take much intelligence to deduce that companies will also not abide to the concepts of Net Neutrality. The evidence is there, all you have to do is look and disclose.

]]> http://techliberation.com/2009/12/21/the-%e2%80%9cproblem-of-proportionality%e2%80%9d-in-the-debate-over-net-neutrality/comment-page-1/#comment-64382 eee_eff Tue, 29 Dec 2009 05:38:15 +0000 http://techliberation.com/?p=24566#comment-64382 <p>There are many other examples, such as:<br><br>WHNT’s Technical Glitches<br>The New York Times | Editorial<br>Wednesday 27 February 2008<br><br>In 1955, when WLBT-TV, the NBC affiliate in Jackson, Miss., did not want to run a network report about racial desegregation, it famously hung up the sign: “Sorry, Cable Trouble.” Audiences in northern Alabama might have suspected the same tactics when WHNT-TV, the CBS affiliate, went dark Sunday evening during a “60 minutes” segment that strongly suggested that Don Siegelman, Alabama’s former Democratic governor, was wrongly convicted of corruption last year.<br><br>These are not minor, I would recall MLK: "A threat to freedom anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere."</p> There are many other examples, such as:

WHNT’s Technical Glitches
The New York Times | Editorial
Wednesday 27 February 2008

In 1955, when WLBT-TV, the NBC affiliate in Jackson, Miss., did not want to run a network report about racial desegregation, it famously hung up the sign: “Sorry, Cable Trouble.” Audiences in northern Alabama might have suspected the same tactics when WHNT-TV, the CBS affiliate, went dark Sunday evening during a “60 minutes” segment that strongly suggested that Don Siegelman, Alabama’s former Democratic governor, was wrongly convicted of corruption last year.

These are not minor, I would recall MLK: “A threat to freedom anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere.”

]]> http://techliberation.com/2009/12/21/the-%e2%80%9cproblem-of-proportionality%e2%80%9d-in-the-debate-over-net-neutrality/comment-page-1/#comment-64369 mwendy Sun, 27 Dec 2009 14:33:51 +0000 http://techliberation.com/?p=24566#comment-64369 <p>Mr. Enigma, there are literally trillions of Internet packets going over the Internet daily, with no problems. These alleged occurrences (albeit, from some good music festivals), now almost 3 years old, mean nothing. The market has left whatever those issues were in the dust. The FCC itself cites only two "major" problems to justify its new rules - Madison River and Comcast - both "corrected" either through consent decree (talk about repression) or private agreement (as well as some questionable agency authority).<br><br>I don't want agency repression. Check out the CFR and you'll get an idea of where it can go. Thousands of pages of telecom rules that technology and markets have largely outstripped.</p> Mr. Enigma, there are literally trillions of Internet packets going over the Internet daily, with no problems. These alleged occurrences (albeit, from some good music festivals), now almost 3 years old, mean nothing. The market has left whatever those issues were in the dust. The FCC itself cites only two “major” problems to justify its new rules – Madison River and Comcast – both “corrected” either through consent decree (talk about repression) or private agreement (as well as some questionable agency authority).

I don't want agency repression. Check out the CFR and you'll get an idea of where it can go. Thousands of pages of telecom rules that technology and markets have largely outstripped.

]]> http://techliberation.com/2009/12/21/the-%e2%80%9cproblem-of-proportionality%e2%80%9d-in-the-debate-over-net-neutrality/comment-page-1/#comment-64363 eee_eff Sat, 26 Dec 2009 16:37:32 +0000 http://techliberation.com/?p=24566#comment-64363 <p>Unsurprisingly, evidence was in short supply.<br><br>Oh, really?<br><br><a href="http://enigmafoundry.wordpress.com/2007/08/14/we-dont-need-no-thought-control/" rel="nofollow">http://enigmafoundry.wordpress.com/2007/08/14/w...</a><br><br><a href="http://enigmafoundry.wordpress.com/2008/03/05/why-should-we-tolerate-just-a-little-repression/" rel="nofollow">http://enigmafoundry.wordpress.com/2008/03/05/w...</a></p> Unsurprisingly, evidence was in short supply.

Oh, really?

http://enigmafoundry.wordpress.com/2007/08/14/w…

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]]> http://techliberation.com/2009/12/21/the-%e2%80%9cproblem-of-proportionality%e2%80%9d-in-the-debate-over-net-neutrality/comment-page-1/#comment-64289 flawedskull Tue, 22 Dec 2009 15:23:44 +0000 http://techliberation.com/?p=24566#comment-64289 <p>Adam<br><br>Sorry for the threadjack, but can you enlighten us rubes as to TLFs opinion on the new "cybersecurity czar" ? It sounds messed up to me. Will he be able to impose regulations on private networks?</p> Adam

Sorry for the threadjack, but can you enlighten us rubes as to TLFs opinion on the new “cybersecurity czar” ? It sounds messed up to me. Will he be able to impose regulations on private networks?

]]> http://techliberation.com/2009/12/21/the-%e2%80%9cproblem-of-proportionality%e2%80%9d-in-the-debate-over-net-neutrality/comment-page-1/#comment-64277 mwendy Mon, 21 Dec 2009 17:16:37 +0000 http://techliberation.com/?p=24566#comment-64277 <p>Adam, don't let the facts confuse the situation. "No harm" arguments don't sell newspapers. And, you can't raise PAC dollars if everything works. Moreover, if all's well, then there's no reason for those huge administrative agencies - they need something to do, ya' know.<br><br>Don't be a buzzkill; agencies, the Free Press, the media want you to keep your facts to yourself :-) Then they can get on with the Redistribution.</p> Adam, don't let the facts confuse the situation. “No harm” arguments don't sell newspapers. And, you can't raise PAC dollars if everything works. Moreover, if all's well, then there's no reason for those huge administrative agencies – they need something to do, ya' know.

Don't be a buzzkill; agencies, the Free Press, the media want you to keep your facts to yourself Then they can get on with the Redistribution.

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