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	<title>Comments on: Dropbox: A Privacy Black Box</title>
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		<title>By: Dropbox Encryption &#124; Six Lines</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2009/12/12/dropbox-a-privacy-black-box/comment-page-1/#comment-73461</link>
		<dc:creator>Dropbox Encryption &#124; Six Lines</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Apr 2011 16:18:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] some ways, this &#8216;new&#8217; threat isn&#8217;t really all that new. Jim Harper identified the basic privacy problems with Dropbox way back in December 2009: I homed right in on their “Policies” page, looking for assurance [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] some ways, this &#8216;new&#8217; threat isn&#8217;t really all that new. Jim Harper identified the basic privacy problems with Dropbox way back in December 2009: I homed right in on their “Policies” page, looking for assurance [...]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Raid Recovery</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2009/12/12/dropbox-a-privacy-black-box/comment-page-1/#comment-68784</link>
		<dc:creator>Raid Recovery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 May 2010 00:23:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I agree to you. And also love to use dropbox.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree to you. And also love to use dropbox.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Raid Recovery</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2009/12/12/dropbox-a-privacy-black-box/comment-page-1/#comment-68286</link>
		<dc:creator>Raid Recovery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 May 2010 19:23:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I agree to you. And also love to use dropbox.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree to you. And also love to use dropbox.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Zach Dwiel</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2009/12/12/dropbox-a-privacy-black-box/comment-page-1/#comment-65425</link>
		<dc:creator>Zach Dwiel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 11:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I&#039;ve been using Wuala for a little while now and like it so far.  The client encrypts data with strong keys before it is sent to the cloud.  Data is stored in a P2P network as well as on Wuala servers so nothing ever gets lost, but Wuala doesn&#039;t have to pay for all of the bandwidth. You get cloud storage equal to the amount of disk space you donate * the % of time you are connected.  Its the only cloud storage solution I&#039;ve found which has a free solution that allows more than 1 or 2 GB.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;ve been using Wuala for a little while now and like it so far.  The client encrypts data with strong keys before it is sent to the cloud.  Data is stored in a P2P network as well as on Wuala servers so nothing ever gets lost, but Wuala doesn&#39;t have to pay for all of the bandwidth. You get cloud storage equal to the amount of disk space you donate * the % of time you are connected.  Its the only cloud storage solution I&#39;ve found which has a free solution that allows more than 1 or 2 GB.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Zach Dwiel</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2009/12/12/dropbox-a-privacy-black-box/comment-page-1/#comment-64202</link>
		<dc:creator>Zach Dwiel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 06:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I&#039;ve been using Wuala for a little while now and like it so far.  The client encrypts data with strong keys before it is sent to the cloud.  Data is stored in a P2P network as well as on Wuala servers so nothing ever gets lost, but Wuala doesn&#039;t have to pay for all of the bandwidth. You get cloud storage equal to the amount of disk space you donate * the % of time you are connected.  Its the only cloud storage solution I&#039;ve found which has a free solution that allows more than 1 or 2 GB.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;ve been using Wuala for a little while now and like it so far.  The client encrypts data with strong keys before it is sent to the cloud.  Data is stored in a P2P network as well as on Wuala servers so nothing ever gets lost, but Wuala doesn&#39;t have to pay for all of the bandwidth. You get cloud storage equal to the amount of disk space you donate * the % of time you are connected.  Its the only cloud storage solution I&#39;ve found which has a free solution that allows more than 1 or 2 GB.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: software_critics</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2009/12/12/dropbox-a-privacy-black-box/comment-page-1/#comment-64145</link>
		<dc:creator>software_critics</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 08:58:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I have tried using Dropbox in two separate instances but it was a complete failure. It doesn&#039;t even sync files uploaded on multiple PCs contrary to what it brags as capable of doing.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have tried using Dropbox in two separate instances but it was a complete failure. It doesn&#39;t even sync files uploaded on multiple PCs contrary to what it brags as capable of doing.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: willamtarker</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2009/12/12/dropbox-a-privacy-black-box/comment-page-1/#comment-64046</link>
		<dc:creator>willamtarker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 07:57:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;This sounds interesting as i have never used this&lt;br&gt;kind of black box before, so please send me the &lt;br&gt;invite so that i can get the benefit of the service.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This sounds interesting as i have never used this<br />kind of black box before, so please send me the <br />invite so that i can get the benefit of the service.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Axel</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2009/12/12/dropbox-a-privacy-black-box/comment-page-1/#comment-64035</link>
		<dc:creator>Axel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 01:10:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I am a SpiderOak user myself and love it, moved from DtopBox due to their &#039;sync folder&#039; where you have to sync everything from one place. SpiderOak allows you to sync any number of folders, and keep the current folder structure.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a SpiderOak user myself and love it, moved from DtopBox due to their &#39;sync folder&#39; where you have to sync everything from one place. SpiderOak allows you to sync any number of folders, and keep the current folder structure.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: webcoyote</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2009/12/12/dropbox-a-privacy-black-box/comment-page-1/#comment-64025</link>
		<dc:creator>webcoyote</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 06:08:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Check out DropBox competitor SpiderOak (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.spideroak.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.spideroak.com&lt;/a&gt;) which encrypts files on the client-side before upload (and doesn&#039;t retain the password) so that the company has no access to your personal data.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Check out DropBox competitor SpiderOak (<a href="http://www.spideroak.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.spideroak.com</a>) which encrypts files on the client-side before upload (and doesn&#39;t retain the password) so that the company has no access to your personal data.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Jamie</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2009/12/12/dropbox-a-privacy-black-box/comment-page-1/#comment-64005</link>
		<dc:creator>Jamie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 04:16:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Anyone looking for a Dropbox referral link (gives you &amp; me free extra storage space), feel free to use mine here: &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.dropbox.com/referrals/NTE4NjM0NDY5&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https://www.dropbox.com/referrals/NTE4NjM0NDY5&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thanks!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone looking for a Dropbox referral link (gives you &amp; me free extra storage space), feel free to use mine here: <a href="https://www.dropbox.com/referrals/NTE4NjM0NDY5" rel="nofollow">https://www.dropbox.com/referrals/NTE4NjM0NDY5</a><br /><br />Thanks!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: cryptozoologist</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2009/12/12/dropbox-a-privacy-black-box/comment-page-1/#comment-64002</link>
		<dc:creator>cryptozoologist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 22:05:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;surely you don&#039;t think that any website&#039;s &#039;policy&#039; regarding privacy, which likely can be changed at any time offers you any real protection?  so that when you suspect that website has violated your privacy you can take them to court?  you did save a copy of the policy from the day you signed up right? dropbox is a useful service that i enjoy and use, but i do not expect any level of actual privacy.  what i get is convenience and i am sure to not include my plans for world domination there (unless i encrypt them first!)&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>surely you don&#39;t think that any website&#39;s &#39;policy&#39; regarding privacy, which likely can be changed at any time offers you any real protection?  so that when you suspect that website has violated your privacy you can take them to court?  you did save a copy of the policy from the day you signed up right? dropbox is a useful service that i enjoy and use, but i do not expect any level of actual privacy.  what i get is convenience and i am sure to not include my plans for world domination there (unless i encrypt them first!)</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: cryptozoologist</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2009/12/12/dropbox-a-privacy-black-box/comment-page-1/#comment-64003</link>
		<dc:creator>cryptozoologist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 22:05:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;surely you don&#039;t think that any website&#039;s &#039;policy&#039; regarding privacy, which likely can be changed at any time offers you any real protection?  so that when you suspect that website has violated your privacy you can take them to court?  you did save a copy of the policy from the day you signed up right? dropbox is a useful service that i enjoy and use, but i do not expect any level of actual privacy.  what i get is convenience and i am sure to not include my plans for world domination there (unless i encrypt them first!)&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>surely you don&#39;t think that any website&#39;s &#39;policy&#39; regarding privacy, which likely can be changed at any time offers you any real protection?  so that when you suspect that website has violated your privacy you can take them to court?  you did save a copy of the policy from the day you signed up right? dropbox is a useful service that i enjoy and use, but i do not expect any level of actual privacy.  what i get is convenience and i am sure to not include my plans for world domination there (unless i encrypt them first!)</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Guest</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2009/12/12/dropbox-a-privacy-black-box/comment-page-1/#comment-64001</link>
		<dc:creator>Guest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 22:00:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Local encryption and backup prior to storing data in the cloud is one way of addressing these concerns.  (Use a public key/private key architecture if you need to share encrypted data.)  Unfortunately this introduces logistical problems...c&#039;est la vie.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Local encryption and backup prior to storing data in the cloud is one way of addressing these concerns.  (Use a public key/private key architecture if you need to share encrypted data.)  Unfortunately this introduces logistical problems&#8230;c&#39;est la vie.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: chris</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2009/12/12/dropbox-a-privacy-black-box/comment-page-1/#comment-63999</link>
		<dc:creator>chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 21:40:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;your comments on data liberation and risk of data being held hostage are moot. all data remains on your local device and is simply synced to the dropbox service. basically it is a poor mans cvs/svn/git&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>your comments on data liberation and risk of data being held hostage are moot. all data remains on your local device and is simply synced to the dropbox service. basically it is a poor mans cvs/svn/git</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Berin Szoka</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2009/12/12/dropbox-a-privacy-black-box/comment-page-1/#comment-63992</link>
		<dc:creator>Berin Szoka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 18:26:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Zounds!  It&#039;s time to reform Fourth Amendment Privacy Doctrine.  Jim, if only you had written a law review article on that subject!  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Oh, wait, you &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.wcl.american.edu/journal/lawrev/57/harper.pdf?rd=1&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;already did&lt;/a&gt;!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zounds!  It&#39;s time to reform Fourth Amendment Privacy Doctrine.  Jim, if only you had written a law review article on that subject!  <br /><br />Oh, wait, you <a href="http://www.wcl.american.edu/journal/lawrev/57/harper.pdf?rd=1" rel="nofollow">already did</a>!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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