Comments on: Internet Companies’ Bogus Plea for Regulation http://techliberation.com/2009/10/20/internet-companies-bogus-plea-for-regulation/ Keeping politicians' hands off the Net & everything else related to technology Tue, 14 Feb 2012 19:26:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Net Neutrality: A Brief Primer - Hit & Run : Reason Magazine http://techliberation.com/2009/10/20/internet-companies-bogus-plea-for-regulation/comment-page-1/#comment-63029 Net Neutrality: A Brief Primer - Hit & Run : Reason Magazine Wed, 21 Oct 2009 22:01:31 +0000 http://techliberation.com/?p=22725#comment-63029 <p>[...] But the truth is that there are big corporations, and big corporate interests, on both sides. On the pro-neutrality side are the companies whose businesses operate at the edge of the web: Silicon Valley Web services like [...]</p> [...] But the truth is that there are big corporations, and big corporate interests, on both sides. On the pro-neutrality side are the companies whose businesses operate at the edge of the web: Silicon Valley Web services like [...]

]]> By: George Ou http://techliberation.com/2009/10/20/internet-companies-bogus-plea-for-regulation/comment-page-1/#comment-65921 George Ou Wed, 21 Oct 2009 21:40:06 +0000 http://techliberation.com/?p=22725#comment-65921 <p>"Large, established companies are not known for being ahead of trends, for one thing, and the anti-authoritarian culture of the Internet is the perfect place to play “beleagured upstart” against the giant, evil ISP. There could be no greater PR gift than for a small service to have access to it degraded by an ISP."<br><br>Vuze was never a victim in any shape way or form from TCP resets because Vuze has their own BitTorrent seeds (what Vuze refers to as "pre-seeding"), and BitTorrent downloads were never affected. Just like nobody actually tries to distribute copies of the bible over BitTorrent because it works 20 times faster and easier using the free web hosting space Comcast already gives you. The FCC filing was merely a manufactured legal case and PR ploy and it worked.<br><br>The outcome of that case was to force Comcast to fairly throttle users based on heavy usage which ironically DOES slow down Vuze content distribution whereas the old TCP reset system did not. But Vuze values the PR more than they view their ability to service their users.</p> “Large, established companies are not known for being ahead of trends, for one thing, and the anti-authoritarian culture of the Internet is the perfect place to play “beleagured upstart” against the giant, evil ISP. There could be no greater PR gift than for a small service to have access to it degraded by an ISP.”

Vuze was never a victim in any shape way or form from TCP resets because Vuze has their own BitTorrent seeds (what Vuze refers to as “pre-seeding”), and BitTorrent downloads were never affected. Just like nobody actually tries to distribute copies of the bible over BitTorrent because it works 20 times faster and easier using the free web hosting space Comcast already gives you. The FCC filing was merely a manufactured legal case and PR ploy and it worked.

The outcome of that case was to force Comcast to fairly throttle users based on heavy usage which ironically DOES slow down Vuze content distribution whereas the old TCP reset system did not. But Vuze values the PR more than they view their ability to service their users.

]]> By: George Ou http://techliberation.com/2009/10/20/internet-companies-bogus-plea-for-regulation/comment-page-1/#comment-63025 George Ou Wed, 21 Oct 2009 17:40:06 +0000 http://techliberation.com/?p=22725#comment-63025 <p>"Large, established companies are not known for being ahead of trends, for one thing, and the anti-authoritarian culture of the Internet is the perfect place to play “beleagured upstart” against the giant, evil ISP. There could be no greater PR gift than for a small service to have access to it degraded by an ISP."<br><br>Vuze was never a victim in any shape way or form from TCP resets because Vuze has their own BitTorrent seeds (what Vuze refers to as "pre-seeding"), and BitTorrent downloads were never affected. Just like nobody actually tries to distribute copies of the bible over BitTorrent because it works 20 times faster and easier using the free web hosting space Comcast already gives you. The FCC filing was merely a manufactured legal case and PR ploy and it worked.<br><br>The outcome of that case was to force Comcast to fairly throttle users based on heavy usage which ironically DOES slow down Vuze content distribution whereas the old TCP reset system did not. But Vuze values the PR more than they view their ability to service their users.</p> “Large, established companies are not known for being ahead of trends, for one thing, and the anti-authoritarian culture of the Internet is the perfect place to play “beleagured upstart” against the giant, evil ISP. There could be no greater PR gift than for a small service to have access to it degraded by an ISP.”

Vuze was never a victim in any shape way or form from TCP resets because Vuze has their own BitTorrent seeds (what Vuze refers to as “pre-seeding”), and BitTorrent downloads were never affected. Just like nobody actually tries to distribute copies of the bible over BitTorrent because it works 20 times faster and easier using the free web hosting space Comcast already gives you. The FCC filing was merely a manufactured legal case and PR ploy and it worked.

The outcome of that case was to force Comcast to fairly throttle users based on heavy usage which ironically DOES slow down Vuze content distribution whereas the old TCP reset system did not. But Vuze values the PR more than they view their ability to service their users.

]]> By: Assorted Links — Surprisingly Free http://techliberation.com/2009/10/20/internet-companies-bogus-plea-for-regulation/comment-page-1/#comment-63026 Assorted Links — Surprisingly Free Wed, 21 Oct 2009 17:01:28 +0000 http://techliberation.com/?p=22725#comment-63026 <p>[...] Internet Companies’ Bogus Plea for Regulation [...]</p> [...] Internet Companies’ Bogus Plea for Regulation [...]

]]> By: MikeRT http://techliberation.com/2009/10/20/internet-companies-bogus-plea-for-regulation/comment-page-1/#comment-63019 MikeRT Wed, 21 Oct 2009 11:49:44 +0000 http://techliberation.com/?p=22725#comment-63019 <blockquote><br>Plain and simple, these companies want regulation to ensure that ISPs can’t capture a larger share of the profits that the Internet generates. They want it all for themselves. Phrased another way, the goal is to create a subsidy for content creators by blocking ISPs from getting a piece of the action.<br></blockquote> <p><br><br>The ISPs create the perception with the public that they are getting neutral access to these websites with their ISP service plan. If they are secretly jacking these websites, then they are defrauding their customers in a moral, if not legal, sense.<br><br>Metered bandwidth is the answer to most of this, but the FCC should be empowered to force them to advertise these policies to their customers so that they do not give them the perception of neutral access to basic internet services.<br><br>They can't have it both ways.</p>
Plain and simple, these companies want regulation to ensure that ISPs can’t capture a larger share of the profits that the Internet generates. They want it all for themselves. Phrased another way, the goal is to create a subsidy for content creators by blocking ISPs from getting a piece of the action.



The ISPs create the perception with the public that they are getting neutral access to these websites with their ISP service plan. If they are secretly jacking these websites, then they are defrauding their customers in a moral, if not legal, sense.

Metered bandwidth is the answer to most of this, but the FCC should be empowered to force them to advertise these policies to their customers so that they do not give them the perception of neutral access to basic internet services.

They can't have it both ways.

]]> By: scottcleland http://techliberation.com/2009/10/20/internet-companies-bogus-plea-for-regulation/comment-page-1/#comment-63003 scottcleland Tue, 20 Oct 2009 18:54:55 +0000 http://techliberation.com/?p=22725#comment-63003 <p>well said! dead on.</p> well said! dead on.

]]> By: mwendy http://techliberation.com/2009/10/20/internet-companies-bogus-plea-for-regulation/comment-page-1/#comment-63001 mwendy Tue, 20 Oct 2009 16:45:04 +0000 http://techliberation.com/?p=22725#comment-63001 <p>Agreed. The Net Neuts appear to be pushing so-called "fin-syn" like regulations onto largely unregulated ISP facilities and infrastructure. This overly-prohylactic approach will stifle innovation and roll-out of needed transport.</p> Agreed. The Net Neuts appear to be pushing so-called “fin-syn” like regulations onto largely unregulated ISP facilities and infrastructure. This overly-prohylactic approach will stifle innovation and roll-out of needed transport.

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