Comments on: Consumer Protection, Internet Style: ProFlowers.com

By: airlinesjobs

airlinesjobs — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 20:25:59 +0000

I am having the same problem with these thieves. Why is this not illegal? It is like pick-pocketing. They owe me and politely say that they will refund my money but never do and keep debiting my account. How do I get them to stop?

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By: airlinesjobs

airlinesjobs — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 16:25:59 +0000

By: The Negative Feedback Loop Begins | Think Tank West

The Negative Feedback Loop Begins | Think Tank West — Tue, 17 Nov 2009 18:40:12 +0000

[...] wrote on the Tech Liberation Front blog a couple of months ago about the shady practice among a few Internet retailers of handing off [...]

By: The Negative Feedback Loop Begins — Technology Liberation Front

The Negative Feedback Loop Begins — Technology Liberation Front — Tue, 17 Nov 2009 14:50:38 +0000

[...] wrote here a couple of months ago about the shady practice among a few Internet retailers of handing off [...]

By: chinaman4u

chinaman4u — Wed, 28 Oct 2009 03:30:12 +0000

I have received all money owed within 10 days amounting to $270!

By: donnar

donnar — Wed, 28 Oct 2009 03:14:50 +0000

I am having the same problem with these thieves. Why is this not illegal? It is like pick-pocketing. They owe me $75.00 and politely say that they will refund my money but never do and keep debiting my account. How do I get them to stop?

By: chinaman4u

chinaman4u — Fri, 09 Oct 2009 22:33:39 +0000

I discovered this because I couldn't figure out what a $14.95 charge on my checking account came from so I searched "easy saver" and found this.

Called 1 800 355 1837 and gave them my information, and nicely and politely ask that they cancel further billing and promised to refund for the past 18 months that I have been charged.

A relatively painless, hasslefree call... now we'll see if I get my money back totaling $270.00!!!

I specifically said, "Hi...I never signed up for this service through Proflowers, I would like to stop further charges and talk about a refund." Her immediate answer was, "Is this through a debit card or credit card?" Then since it ws through debit, she offered a 12 mo refund through the bank card and the additional 6 mo through a check mailed to me.

-herman

By: rok

rok — Fri, 28 Aug 2009 14:06:43 +0000

Ah, yes, freedom is a privilege granted by The State to those who prove themselves worthy! Danke schoen, mein Herr Kampkomandant!

Those of us who want to be free better get to work! After all, Arbeit macht frei, right? ("Work makes [you] free," as the welcome signs at most concentration camps reminded their new guests.)

http://diretes.com/blog/

By: Steve R.

Steve R. — Wed, 26 Aug 2009 12:33:25 +0000

I didn't get a good nights sleep, the peasants where out with their torches and pitch forks demanding justice. Anyway, I remembered this Larry Kudlow clip Market Malaise. The video clip is 16 minutes long, but the significant portion begins at minute 14. Larry is a major proponent of a minimally regulated free market. But, as a response to the bursting of our financial bubble, he has advocated the need for ethical behavior.

Even Adam Thierer noted Smith's Theory of Moral Sentiments

By: Steve R.

Steve R. — Wed, 26 Aug 2009 01:11:47 +0000

But there is the reverse logic. Corporations would have the freedom to steal from people, even to the point of invading their homes to assure that the products “leased” to the consumer are being used “correctly”! Furthermore, the term “correctly” would be ethereal at best, since corporations would assert that they have a right to unilaterally change the terms of service at their whim. The logical conclusion is that those who have economic power (king) would be always be “right” while all others (landless peasants) would always be “wrong”. Hmm, sounds a bit like feudalism.

To move us out of this feudalistic derangement, in line with the art work at the TLF, I might suggest implementing a modernized version of “Council of the People's Commissars” to create a new workers paradise.

By: Berin Szoka

Berin Szoka — Tue, 25 Aug 2009 22:05:47 +0000

Ah, yes, freedom is a privilege granted by The State to those who prove themselves worthy! Danke schoen, mein Herr Kampkomandant!

Those of us who want to be free better get to work. After all, Arbeit macht frei, right? ("Work makes [you] free," as the welcome signs at most concentration camps reminded their new guests.)

By: Steve R.

Steve R. — Tue, 25 Aug 2009 20:37:00 +0000

Well here is one of my "exposures": href="http://srynas.blogspot.com/2009/08/verizons-onerous-terms-of-use.html>Verizons Onerous Terms of Use.

I think that this is being presented as too much of a black and white issue. There is a middle ground, which I believe that some Libertarians are unwilling to comprehend. If we are to live in a civilized society, one has to accept that your actions can damage another and that one should assume responsibility (restraint) for not damaging others. So, in the case of ProFlowers, if they are not willing to correct their behavior; they should be actively hounded by the likes of the better business bureau or other "free" market advocates. The reluctance in exposing market abuses by those who advocate a free market in exposing market abuses are doing themselves a disservice. Please see my post Misplaced Regulatory Blame II.

If the "free" market can't police itself, my reaction is regulation since you proved yourself unworthy of your entitlement to freedom. My middle ground, before we get to regulation, the business community should apply real public pressure to keep the free market clean.