Comments on: China’s Green Dam Filter and the Threat of Rising Global Censorship http://techliberation.com/2009/06/17/chinas-green-dam-filter-and-threat-of-rising-global-censorship/ Keeping politicians' hands off the Net & everything else related to technology Sun, 27 May 2012 20:03:31 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: The Progress & Freedom Foundation Blog http://techliberation.com/2009/06/17/chinas-green-dam-filter-and-threat-of-rising-global-censorship/comment-page-1/#comment-61714 The Progress & Freedom Foundation Blog Tue, 15 Sep 2009 20:38:44 +0000 http://techliberation.com/?p=18807#comment-61714 <p><strong>The Irony of Mandatory Filtering in China vs. the U.S....</strong></p> <p>"Schools in Beijing are quietly removing the Green Dam filter, which was required for all school computers in July, due to complaints over problems with the software," notes this Reuters report. Even though China backed down on their earlier requirem...</p> The Irony of Mandatory Filtering in China vs. the U.S….

“Schools in Beijing are quietly removing the Green Dam filter, which was required for all school computers in July, due to complaints over problems with the software,” notes this Reuters report. Even though China backed down on their earlier requirem…

]]> By: The Irony of Mandatory Filtering in China vs. the U.S. — Technology Liberation Front http://techliberation.com/2009/06/17/chinas-green-dam-filter-and-threat-of-rising-global-censorship/comment-page-1/#comment-61709 The Irony of Mandatory Filtering in China vs. the U.S. — Technology Liberation Front Tue, 15 Sep 2009 20:32:04 +0000 http://techliberation.com/?p=18807#comment-61709 <p>[...] notes this Reuters report. Even though China backed down on their earlier requirement to have the Green Dam filter installed on all computers, according to Reuters “schools were still ordered by the Ministry [...]</p> [...] notes this Reuters report. Even though China backed down on their earlier requirement to have the Green Dam filter installed on all computers, according to Reuters “schools were still ordered by the Ministry [...]

]]> By: Charles Liu http://techliberation.com/2009/06/17/chinas-green-dam-filter-and-threat-of-rising-global-censorship/comment-page-1/#comment-65195 Charles Liu Sun, 21 Jun 2009 05:21:18 +0000 http://techliberation.com/?p=18807#comment-65195 <p>How can it be censorship when end users were never required to install or run Green Dam?<br><br>Read page 2 paragraph 2) of the 5/19 MIIT notice Rebecca posted closely - "preinstall" in Chinese actually means "bundle". Take this 6/12 ZDNet article citing WSJ for example:<br><br><a href="http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=19688" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=19688</a><br><br>The end users were never required to install or run Green Dam. As to what Green Dam will filter, it is configuable by the user.<br><br>How this is twisted into censorhip by a handfull of bloggers is beyond me - anti-sinoism perhaps?</p> How can it be censorship when end users were never required to install or run Green Dam?

Read page 2 paragraph 2) of the 5/19 MIIT notice Rebecca posted closely – “preinstall” in Chinese actually means “bundle”. Take this 6/12 ZDNet article citing WSJ for example:

http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=19688

The end users were never required to install or run Green Dam. As to what Green Dam will filter, it is configuable by the user.

How this is twisted into censorhip by a handfull of bloggers is beyond me – anti-sinoism perhaps?

]]> By: Charles Liu http://techliberation.com/2009/06/17/chinas-green-dam-filter-and-threat-of-rising-global-censorship/comment-page-1/#comment-61625 Charles Liu Sun, 21 Jun 2009 01:21:18 +0000 http://techliberation.com/?p=18807#comment-61625 <p>How can it be censorship when end users were never required to install or run Green Dam?<br><br>Read page 2 paragraph 2) of the 5/19 MIIT notice Rebecca posted closely - "preinstall" in Chinese actually means "bundle". Take this 6/12 ZDNet article citing WSJ for example:<br><br><a href="http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=19688" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=19688</a><br><br>The end users were never required to install or run Green Dam. As to what Green Dam will filter, it is configuable by the user.<br><br>How this is twisted into censorhip by a handfull of bloggers is beyond me - anti-sinoism perhaps?</p> How can it be censorship when end users were never required to install or run Green Dam?

Read page 2 paragraph 2) of the 5/19 MIIT notice Rebecca posted closely – “preinstall” in Chinese actually means “bundle”. Take this 6/12 ZDNet article citing WSJ for example:

http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=19688

The end users were never required to install or run Green Dam. As to what Green Dam will filter, it is configuable by the user.

How this is twisted into censorhip by a handfull of bloggers is beyond me – anti-sinoism perhaps?

]]> By: Charles Liu http://techliberation.com/2009/06/17/chinas-green-dam-filter-and-threat-of-rising-global-censorship/comment-page-1/#comment-59726 Charles Liu Sun, 21 Jun 2009 00:21:18 +0000 http://techliberation.com/?p=18807#comment-59726 <p>How can it be censorship when end users were never required to install or run Green Dam?<br><br>Read page 2 paragraph 2) of the 5/19 MIIT notice Rebecca posted closely - "preinstall" in Chinese actually means "bundle". Take this 6/12 ZDNet article citing WSJ for example:<br><br><a href="http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=19688" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=19688</a><br><br>The end users were never required to install or run Green Dam. As to what Green Dam will filter, it is configuable by the user.<br><br>How this is twisted into censorhip by a handfull of bloggers is beyond me - anti-sinoism perhaps?</p> How can it be censorship when end users were never required to install or run Green Dam?

Read page 2 paragraph 2) of the 5/19 MIIT notice Rebecca posted closely – “preinstall” in Chinese actually means “bundle”. Take this 6/12 ZDNet article citing WSJ for example:

http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=19688

The end users were never required to install or run Green Dam. As to what Green Dam will filter, it is configuable by the user.

How this is twisted into censorhip by a handfull of bloggers is beyond me – anti-sinoism perhaps?

]]> By: Tony http://techliberation.com/2009/06/17/chinas-green-dam-filter-and-threat-of-rising-global-censorship/comment-page-1/#comment-59704 Tony Fri, 19 Jun 2009 17:32:05 +0000 http://techliberation.com/?p=18807#comment-59704 <p>I get the feeling that censoring the internet is an experiment that will blow up in the faces of governments in the coming years. What may seem like a good idea now will turn out to be quite a mistake when the world becomes even more globalized. It's like trying to keep a boulder from tumbling down an embankment... eventually gravity will crush you.<br><br>Also, this video says China's backing off of the filter req. Not sure who's right: <a href="http://www.newsy.com/videos/chinese_filter_a_no_go" rel="nofollow">http://www.newsy.com/videos/chinese_filter_a_no_go</a></p> I get the feeling that censoring the internet is an experiment that will blow up in the faces of governments in the coming years. What may seem like a good idea now will turn out to be quite a mistake when the world becomes even more globalized. It's like trying to keep a boulder from tumbling down an embankment… eventually gravity will crush you.

Also, this video says China's backing off of the filter req. Not sure who's right: http://www.newsy.com/videos/chinese_filter_a_no_go

]]> By: AlexHarris http://techliberation.com/2009/06/17/chinas-green-dam-filter-and-threat-of-rising-global-censorship/comment-page-1/#comment-59688 AlexHarris Thu, 18 Jun 2009 18:08:19 +0000 http://techliberation.com/?p=18807#comment-59688 <p>Does anyone have a list going of coerced filtering/censorship "agreements" between governments and ISPs? I last followed this issue in August and there were already several countries and states in the game:<br><a href="http://www.openmarket.org/2008/08/11/italy-blocks-website/" rel="nofollow">http://www.openmarket.org/2008/08/11/italy-bloc...</a></p> Does anyone have a list going of coerced filtering/censorship “agreements” between governments and ISPs? I last followed this issue in August and there were already several countries and states in the game:
http://www.openmarket.org/2008/08/11/italy-bloc…

]]> By: Peter http://techliberation.com/2009/06/17/chinas-green-dam-filter-and-threat-of-rising-global-censorship/comment-page-1/#comment-59675 Peter Wed, 17 Jun 2009 21:04:21 +0000 http://techliberation.com/?p=18807#comment-59675 <p>This chinese filtering mandate also asks PC hardware distributors to become accomplices in distributing pirated software code.<br><br><a href="http://netdaddy-internetsafety.blogspot.com/2009/06/mandated-chinese-internet-filter.html" rel="nofollow">http://netdaddy-internetsafety.blogspot.com/200...</a></p> This chinese filtering mandate also asks PC hardware distributors to become accomplices in distributing pirated software code.

http://netdaddy-internetsafety.blogspot.com/200…

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