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By: Schneier on RealAge.com: Factually Incorrect | The Technology Liberation Front

Wed, 29 Apr 2009 00:25:06 +0000

[...] share many of Adam’s concerns with Bruce Schneier’s WSJ piece. But there’s something else wrong with it. He’s got the facts [...]

By: MikeRT

MikeRT — Tue, 28 Apr 2009 21:24:14 +0000

I tend to agree with Bruce's perspective. It's easy to say don't use the www if privacy is an issue to you, but when your social network or employer relies on it, you don't really have a choice. People don't understand privacy implications until they've lost their privacy, usually.

It's generally been my experience that the people who get upset about online privacy have never really considered how little privacy and security they really have. For example, your employer's payroll department would be the PERFECT place for a scammer to work. Come in as an intern, copy all of those checks new hires send in for direct deposit applications, and the nearly security free international check-processing apparatus will allow them to rape that company's employees financially. There are also all of the garden variety identify theft schemes that can happen simply with dumpster diving and rifling through your mail.

By comparison, Facebook has armed guards and an automated perimeter defense watching over your privacy.

By: MikeRT

MikeRT — Tue, 28 Apr 2009 20:24:14 +0000

I tend to agree with Bruce's perspective. It's easy to say don't use the www if privacy is an issue to you, but when your social network or employer relies on it, you don't really have a choice. People don't understand privacy implications until they've lost their privacy, usually.

It's generally been my experience that the people who get upset about online privacy have never really considered how little privacy and security they really have. For example, your employer's payroll department would be the PERFECT place for a scammer to work. Come in as an intern, copy all of those checks new hires send in for direct deposit applications, and the nearly security free international check-processing apparatus will allow them to rape that company's employees financially. There are also all of the garden variety identify theft schemes that can happen simply with dumpster diving and rifling through your mail.

By comparison, Facebook has armed guards an automated perimeter defense watching over your privacy.

By: Kris Constable

Kris Constable — Tue, 28 Apr 2009 18:42:16 +0000

I tend to agree with Bruce's perspective. It's easy to say don't use the www if privacy is an issue to you, but when your social network or employer relies on it, you don't really have a choice. People don't understand privacy implications until they've lost their privacy, usually.
To suggest using your privacy solutions website, or Bruce's Applied Crypto book is simply being silly. Has your grandmother read either of these? No. Are either of these easily accessible to 80% of the market? No. Have you personally implemented cryptography into your facebook account? I seriously doubt it.
I think we need to implement privacy controls into the tools that are available, while at the same time offering easy to use training on these tools, for the masses.

By: Don Marti

Don Marti — Tue, 28 Apr 2009 18:20:48 +0000

How did sneaky fine print get to be the "economic engine" of anything except DC lobbying?

Credit card CEOs got a talking to about their weaselly ways with words --
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/ar... -- operators of online services should take the hint.