Comments on: Chris Soghoian’s Cool Opt-Out Plugin http://techliberation.com/2009/03/19/chris-sogohians-cool-opt-out-plugin/ Keeping politicians' hands off the Net & everything else related to technology Sun, 27 May 2012 22:43:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: If NCMEC’s Going to Regulate the Internet for Child Porn, It Should At Least Be Subject to FOIA http://techliberation.com/2009/03/19/chris-sogohians-cool-opt-out-plugin/comment-page-1/#comment-60617 If NCMEC’s Going to Regulate the Internet for Child Porn, It Should At Least Be Subject to FOIA Fri, 14 Aug 2009 13:28:22 +0000 http://techliberation.com/?p=17529#comment-60617 <p>[...] my differences with Chris, he’s often right and may be here, too. He’s certainly right that Congress is unlikely to address the [...]</p> [...] my differences with Chris, he’s often right and may be here, too. He’s certainly right that Congress is unlikely to address the [...]

]]> By: Can Technology Solve The Privacy Questions Around Behavioral Advertising? | Geek News and Musings http://techliberation.com/2009/03/19/chris-sogohians-cool-opt-out-plugin/comment-page-1/#comment-58886 Can Technology Solve The Privacy Questions Around Behavioral Advertising? | Geek News and Musings Thu, 26 Mar 2009 16:42:48 +0000 http://techliberation.com/?p=17529#comment-58886 <p>[...] like behavioral targeting of advertisements. Before we rush into new laws, let’s see if technology can solve the problems, such as Chris Soghoian’s new tool to let users add a browser extension that let’s them [...]</p> [...] like behavioral targeting of advertisements. Before we rush into new laws, let’s see if technology can solve the problems, such as Chris Soghoian’s new tool to let users add a browser extension that let’s them [...]

]]> By: michaelzimmer.org » NY Times on Online Data Collection and Sharing http://techliberation.com/2009/03/19/chris-sogohians-cool-opt-out-plugin/comment-page-1/#comment-58883 michaelzimmer.org » NY Times on Online Data Collection and Sharing Thu, 26 Mar 2009 13:33:53 +0000 http://techliberation.com/?p=17529#comment-58883 <p>[...] I checked out my profile on both sites, but they didn’t have anything on me, probably becuase I’ve installed Chris Soghoian’s Targeted Advertising Cookie Opt-Out plugin. [...]</p> [...] I checked out my profile on both sites, but they didn’t have anything on me, probably becuase I’ve installed Chris Soghoian’s Targeted Advertising Cookie Opt-Out plugin. [...]

]]> By: Click World News » Blog Archive » Can Technology Solve The Privacy Questions Around Behavioral Advertising? http://techliberation.com/2009/03/19/chris-sogohians-cool-opt-out-plugin/comment-page-1/#comment-58880 Click World News » Blog Archive » Can Technology Solve The Privacy Questions Around Behavioral Advertising? Thu, 26 Mar 2009 03:31:31 +0000 http://techliberation.com/?p=17529#comment-58880 <p>[...] things like behavioral targeting of advertisements. Before we rush into new laws, let's see if technology can solve the problems, such as Chris Soghoian's new tool to let users add a browser extension that let's them block out [...]</p> [...] things like behavioral targeting of advertisements. Before we rush into new laws, let’s see if technology can solve the problems, such as Chris Soghoian’s new tool to let users add a browser extension that let’s them block out [...]

]]> By: Ends, Means, and One Man’s War on Advertising | The Technology Liberation Front http://techliberation.com/2009/03/19/chris-sogohians-cool-opt-out-plugin/comment-page-1/#comment-58852 Ends, Means, and One Man’s War on Advertising | The Technology Liberation Front Tue, 24 Mar 2009 15:02:23 +0000 http://techliberation.com/?p=17529#comment-58852 <p>[...] Soghoian has responded to my recent post lauding his Targeted Advertising Cookie Opt-Out (or “TACO” - documented and downloadable here). [...]</p> [...] Soghoian has responded to my recent post lauding his Targeted Advertising Cookie Opt-Out (or “TACO” – documented and downloadable here). [...]

]]> By: eee_eff http://techliberation.com/2009/03/19/chris-sogohians-cool-opt-out-plugin/comment-page-1/#comment-65627 eee_eff Tue, 24 Mar 2009 07:05:45 +0000 http://techliberation.com/?p=17529#comment-65627 <p><i>It’s a technical solution that empowers (and places responsibility with) the user to exercise dominion over his or her personal information. No need for law and regulation. No need to go pleading to politicians and bureaucrats for help</i><br><br>Jim:<br><br>You haven't come close to demonstrating that there is no need for regulation, just that in one particular instance someone has developed a technical work around. Big difference. When you actually demonstrate that regulation isn't required, let someone know, will you?</p> It’s a technical solution that empowers (and places responsibility with) the user to exercise dominion over his or her personal information. No need for law and regulation. No need to go pleading to politicians and bureaucrats for help

Jim:

You haven't come close to demonstrating that there is no need for regulation, just that in one particular instance someone has developed a technical work around. Big difference. When you actually demonstrate that regulation isn't required, let someone know, will you?

]]> By: Matt Sherman http://techliberation.com/2009/03/19/chris-sogohians-cool-opt-out-plugin/comment-page-1/#comment-65626 Matt Sherman Tue, 24 Mar 2009 06:51:45 +0000 http://techliberation.com/?p=17529#comment-65626 <p>I generally just set my browser to block/ignore third-party cookies. This covers 90% of the issue IMHO -- first-party cookies are effectively opt-in, since you've chosen to go a particular site. It's the drive-by third-party cookies that compromise privacy.</p> I generally just set my browser to block/ignore third-party cookies. This covers 90% of the issue IMHO — first-party cookies are effectively opt-in, since you've chosen to go a particular site. It's the drive-by third-party cookies that compromise privacy.

]]> By: dimitris http://techliberation.com/2009/03/19/chris-sogohians-cool-opt-out-plugin/comment-page-1/#comment-65625 dimitris Tue, 24 Mar 2009 03:27:08 +0000 http://techliberation.com/?p=17529#comment-65625 <p>Well, it may be splitting hairs, but for google posterity if nothing else:<br><br>My SOP for years now has been to set Firefox to always ask me what to do with cookies. With one or two work-related exceptions, the rest of the (web) world gets this treatment:<br><br>- The vast majority of cookies are persistently ("always do this for this site") denied.<br>- When needed, cookies are accepted only for the browser session.<br><br>This way, when advertising networks attempt to set tracking cookies, that serves as a trigger for me to enrich my AdBlock filters, before persistently denying the cookie.<br><br>So far I haven't seen any such third-party cookies which, being blocked, have interfered with my other use of a site.<br><br>Hence the "practical", if not exact, equivalence.<br><br>What would be <b>excellent</b> for a Firefox privacy add-on would be a feature to limit cookies to <b>the particular tab's</b> lifetime, similar to NoScript's temporary permission option.</p> Well, it may be splitting hairs, but for google posterity if nothing else:

My SOP for years now has been to set Firefox to always ask me what to do with cookies. With one or two work-related exceptions, the rest of the (web) world gets this treatment:

- The vast majority of cookies are persistently (“always do this for this site”) denied.
- When needed, cookies are accepted only for the browser session.

This way, when advertising networks attempt to set tracking cookies, that serves as a trigger for me to enrich my AdBlock filters, before persistently denying the cookie.

So far I haven't seen any such third-party cookies which, being blocked, have interfered with my other use of a site.

Hence the “practical”, if not exact, equivalence.

What would be excellent for a Firefox privacy add-on would be a feature to limit cookies to the particular tab's lifetime, similar to NoScript's temporary permission option.

]]> By: eee_eff http://techliberation.com/2009/03/19/chris-sogohians-cool-opt-out-plugin/comment-page-1/#comment-61567 eee_eff Tue, 24 Mar 2009 03:05:45 +0000 http://techliberation.com/?p=17529#comment-61567 <p><i>It’s a technical solution that empowers (and places responsibility with) the user to exercise dominion over his or her personal information. No need for law and regulation. No need to go pleading to politicians and bureaucrats for help</i><br><br>Jim:<br><br>You haven't come close to demonstrating that there is no need for regulation, just that in one particular instance someone has developed a technical work around. Big difference. When you actually demonstrate that regulation isn't required, let someone know, will you?</p> It’s a technical solution that empowers (and places responsibility with) the user to exercise dominion over his or her personal information. No need for law and regulation. No need to go pleading to politicians and bureaucrats for help

Jim:

You haven't come close to demonstrating that there is no need for regulation, just that in one particular instance someone has developed a technical work around. Big difference. When you actually demonstrate that regulation isn't required, let someone know, will you?

]]> By: Matt S http://techliberation.com/2009/03/19/chris-sogohians-cool-opt-out-plugin/comment-page-1/#comment-61566 Matt S Tue, 24 Mar 2009 02:51:45 +0000 http://techliberation.com/?p=17529#comment-61566 <p>I generally just set my browser to block/ignore third-party cookies. This covers 90% of the issue IMHO -- first-party cookies are effectively opt-in, since you've chosen to go a particular site. It's the drive-by third-party cookies that compromise privacy.</p> I generally just set my browser to block/ignore third-party cookies. This covers 90% of the issue IMHO — first-party cookies are effectively opt-in, since you've chosen to go a particular site. It's the drive-by third-party cookies that compromise privacy.

]]> By: eee_eff http://techliberation.com/2009/03/19/chris-sogohians-cool-opt-out-plugin/comment-page-1/#comment-58846 eee_eff Tue, 24 Mar 2009 02:05:45 +0000 http://techliberation.com/?p=17529#comment-58846 <p><i>It’s a technical solution that empowers (and places responsibility with) the user to exercise dominion over his or her personal information. No need for law and regulation. No need to go pleading to politicians and bureaucrats for help</i><br><br>Jim:<br><br>You haven't come close to demonstrating that there is no need for regulation, just that in one particular instance someone has developed a technical work around. Big difference. When you actually demonstrate that regulation isn't required, let someone know, will you?</p> It’s a technical solution that empowers (and places responsibility with) the user to exercise dominion over his or her personal information. No need for law and regulation. No need to go pleading to politicians and bureaucrats for help

Jim:

You haven't come close to demonstrating that there is no need for regulation, just that in one particular instance someone has developed a technical work around. Big difference. When you actually demonstrate that regulation isn't required, let someone know, will you?

]]> By: Matt S http://techliberation.com/2009/03/19/chris-sogohians-cool-opt-out-plugin/comment-page-1/#comment-58844 Matt S Tue, 24 Mar 2009 01:51:45 +0000 http://techliberation.com/?p=17529#comment-58844 <p>I generally just set my browser to block/ignore third-party cookies. This covers 90% of the issue IMHO -- first-party cookies are effectively opt-in, since you've chosen to go a particular site. It's the drive-by third-party cookies that compromise privacy.</p> I generally just set my browser to block/ignore third-party cookies. This covers 90% of the issue IMHO — first-party cookies are effectively opt-in, since you've chosen to go a particular site. It's the drive-by third-party cookies that compromise privacy.

]]> By: dimitris http://techliberation.com/2009/03/19/chris-sogohians-cool-opt-out-plugin/comment-page-1/#comment-58841 dimitris Mon, 23 Mar 2009 22:27:08 +0000 http://techliberation.com/?p=17529#comment-58841 <p>Well, it may be splitting hairs, but for google posterity if nothing else:<br><br>My SOP for years now has been to set Firefox to always ask me what to do with cookies. With one or two work-related exceptions, the rest of the (web) world gets this treatment:<br><br>- The vast majority of cookies are persistently ("always do this for this site") denied.<br>- When needed, cookies are accepted only for the browser session.<br><br>This way, when advertising networks attempt to set tracking cookies, that serves as a trigger for me to enrich my AdBlock filters, before persistently denying the cookie.<br><br>So far I haven't seen any such third-party cookies which, being blocked, have interfered with my other use of a site.<br><br>Hence the "practical", if not exact, equivalence.<br><br>What would be <b>excellent</b> for a Firefox privacy add-on would be a feature to limit cookies to <b>the particular tab's</b> lifetime, similar to NoScript's temporary permission option.</p> Well, it may be splitting hairs, but for google posterity if nothing else:

My SOP for years now has been to set Firefox to always ask me what to do with cookies. With one or two work-related exceptions, the rest of the (web) world gets this treatment:

- The vast majority of cookies are persistently (“always do this for this site”) denied.
- When needed, cookies are accepted only for the browser session.

This way, when advertising networks attempt to set tracking cookies, that serves as a trigger for me to enrich my AdBlock filters, before persistently denying the cookie.

So far I haven't seen any such third-party cookies which, being blocked, have interfered with my other use of a site.

Hence the “practical”, if not exact, equivalence.

What would be excellent for a Firefox privacy add-on would be a feature to limit cookies to the particular tab's lifetime, similar to NoScript's temporary permission option.

]]> By: Berin Szoka http://techliberation.com/2009/03/19/chris-sogohians-cool-opt-out-plugin/comment-page-1/#comment-58818 Berin Szoka Sat, 21 Mar 2009 23:03:55 +0000 http://techliberation.com/?p=17529#comment-58818 <p>Adblock blocks ads. This blocks cookies—and therefore blocks tracking. AdBlock blocks cookies only to the extent that the placement of cookies is requires that the ad load.</p> Adblock blocks ads. This blocks cookies—and therefore blocks tracking. AdBlock blocks cookies only to the extent that the placement of cookies is requires that the ad load.

]]> By: dimitris http://techliberation.com/2009/03/19/chris-sogohians-cool-opt-out-plugin/comment-page-1/#comment-58803 dimitris Sat, 21 Mar 2009 02:57:12 +0000 http://techliberation.com/?p=17529#comment-58803 <p>How is this, in a practical sense, "new" in the face of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adblock" rel="nofollow">Adblock</a> and its whitelisting feature?</p> How is this, in a practical sense, “new” in the face of Adblock and its whitelisting feature?

]]> By: Berin Szoka http://techliberation.com/2009/03/19/chris-sogohians-cool-opt-out-plugin/comment-page-1/#comment-58786 Berin Szoka Thu, 19 Mar 2009 19:32:16 +0000 http://techliberation.com/?p=17529#comment-58786 <p>I've suspected for some time that Jim doesn't read the TLF and now I know it's true. For if Jim had read my post about this issue last week, he would have seen that we actually proposed just such a plug-in! <br><br><a href="http://techliberation.com/2009/03/13/google-cdt-online-advertising-preserving-persistent-user-choice-across-ad-networks-through-plug-ins/" rel="nofollow">http://techliberation.com/2009/03/13/google-cdt...</a></p> I've suspected for some time that Jim doesn't read the TLF and now I know it's true. For if Jim had read my post about this issue last week, he would have seen that we actually proposed just such a plug-in!

http://techliberation.com/2009/03/13/google-cdt…

]]> By: federal http://techliberation.com/2009/03/19/chris-sogohians-cool-opt-out-plugin/comment-page-1/#comment-71338 federal Thu, 19 Mar 2009 19:14:00 +0000 http://techliberation.com/?p=17529#comment-71338 <p>Raivo Pommer raimo1@hot.ee</p> <p>EnBW Krise</p> <p>Nach der Empörung über Millionen-Zahlungen an Ex-Manager unter anderem bei der Post sorgt auch der frühere EnBW-Chef Utz Claassen mit einer Pensionsklage für Aufsehen.</p> <p>Der 45-Jährige verklagt seinen früheren Arbeitgeber, der die Zahlungen seines Übergangsgeldes zum Dezember 2008 eingestellt hatte. Claassen arbeite seit seinem Abschied von dem Stromkonzern für den Finanzinvestor Cerberus, erklärte ein Sprecher der EnBW am Donnerstag. Mit Aufnahme dieser Tätigkeit sei "der Grund für die Zahlung des Übergangsgelds entfallen", bestätigte er einen Bericht der "Financial Times Deutschland". Claassen habe der EnBW zudem noch keine konkreten Angaben über die Höhe seiner derzeitigen Vergütung gemacht. Der Manager hatte die EnBW nach vierjähriger Amtszeit zum Oktober 2007 verlassen.</p> <p>Dagegen sagte der Anwalt Claassens, Klaus Menge, sein Mandant erhalte als selbstständiger Unternehmensberater lediglich Honorare. Laut Dienstvertrag mit der EnBW würden die Zahlungen allerdings erst eingestellt, sobald Claassen ein "Gehalt, Tantiemen oder Ruhegehalt bezieht oder das Gehalt einen bestimmten Betrag übersteigt", sagte der Jurist der Deutschen Presse-Agentur dpa. "Von Einkünften ist in dem Werk nicht die Rede", sagte Menge. Außerdem habe die EnBW kein Recht auf Einsicht in die finanzielle Situation Claassens. Nach seinen Einkünften habe sie vor der Einstellung der Zahlungen nicht konkret gefragt.</p> Raivo Pommer raimo1@hot.ee

EnBW Krise

Nach der Empörung über Millionen-Zahlungen an Ex-Manager unter anderem bei der Post sorgt auch der frühere EnBW-Chef Utz Claassen mit einer Pensionsklage für Aufsehen.

Der 45-Jährige verklagt seinen früheren Arbeitgeber, der die Zahlungen seines Übergangsgeldes zum Dezember 2008 eingestellt hatte. Claassen arbeite seit seinem Abschied von dem Stromkonzern für den Finanzinvestor Cerberus, erklärte ein Sprecher der EnBW am Donnerstag. Mit Aufnahme dieser Tätigkeit sei “der Grund für die Zahlung des Übergangsgelds entfallen”, bestätigte er einen Bericht der “Financial Times Deutschland”. Claassen habe der EnBW zudem noch keine konkreten Angaben über die Höhe seiner derzeitigen Vergütung gemacht. Der Manager hatte die EnBW nach vierjähriger Amtszeit zum Oktober 2007 verlassen.

Dagegen sagte der Anwalt Claassens, Klaus Menge, sein Mandant erhalte als selbstständiger Unternehmensberater lediglich Honorare. Laut Dienstvertrag mit der EnBW würden die Zahlungen allerdings erst eingestellt, sobald Claassen ein “Gehalt, Tantiemen oder Ruhegehalt bezieht oder das Gehalt einen bestimmten Betrag übersteigt”, sagte der Jurist der Deutschen Presse-Agentur dpa. “Von Einkünften ist in dem Werk nicht die Rede”, sagte Menge. Außerdem habe die EnBW kein Recht auf Einsicht in die finanzielle Situation Claassens. Nach seinen Einkünften habe sie vor der Einstellung der Zahlungen nicht konkret gefragt.

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