Comments on: Firefox Architect Debunks Mozilla Foundation’s Claims About Browser Bundling and Competition

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Thu, 17 Sep 2009 18:58:58 +0000

[...] an interesting article (see also here) especially in light of the recent EU investigation of Microsoft’s bundling of IE to the [...]

By: Tom

Tom — Sun, 21 Jun 2009 15:20:59 +0000

I too

By: Steve R.

Steve R. — Wed, 11 Feb 2009 20:00:17 +0000

There is bundling and there is bundling. My take on this is that Microsoft has lost touch with what an operating system is. At its simplest, the operating system is the minimum that is necessary to operate your computer. Add-ons such as Internet Explorer, are NOT part of the operating system, I don't have a problem with Internet Explorer being "bundled", provided that it is a discrete component that can be added and removed by the user-at-will.

Since we are still "free" to choose our browser, "Baker’s portrayal of the browser marketplace is way off base."

By: dm

dm — Wed, 11 Feb 2009 17:56:18 +0000

This Firefox developer needs to get out more. And he's hardly the person to ask, "Is it easy to install Firefox?"

Firefox is really only easy to download if you have a fast internet connection. Even living in an urban area, I live too far from a central office for decent DSL service, and my cable provider puts too many restrictions on use (and plays too many non-neutral games) for me to want to get cable installed just for the increment in bandwidth. I'd think twice about downloading Firefox across my internet connection (it's true that I would still do it --- leaving it to load over night).

If I lived in a more rural area, though, forget it. Were my computer mostly just an appliance, forget it.

Bundling makes a huge difference --- Internet Explorer wouldn't ever have had 90% penetration, otherwise.

An additional explanation for Firefox's increase in market share is the growth of the non-Windows market. Firefox is a natural choice on Linux, after all, and with Macs growing to be a significant part of the installed base, it would be interesting to see how Firefox fares against the bundled Safari.

By: MikeRT

MikeRT — Wed, 11 Feb 2009 03:35:43 +0000

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By: Ryan Radia

Ryan Radia — Wed, 11 Feb 2009 03:33:18 +0000

I got the link from Slashdot, I swear!

By: MikeRT

MikeRT — Wed, 11 Feb 2009 03:15:15 +0000

You're welcome

By: cordblomquist

cordblomquist — Wed, 11 Feb 2009 00:30:55 +0000

Someone needs to protect Mitchell Baker from unfair competition on statements to media--especially from people in her own organization!

This illustrates how antitrust has become a self-serving tool of business, or in Mozilla's case, Big Non-Profit. It's never a legitimate case of monopoly or collusion, it's just political maneuvering born out of naked self interest.

By: cordblomquist

cordblomquist — Tue, 10 Feb 2009 23:59:18 +0000

Someone needs to protect Mitchell Baker from unfair competition on statements to media--especially from people in his own organization!

This illustrates how antitrust has become a self-serving tool of business, or in Mozilla's case, Big Non-Profit. It's never a legitimate case of monopoly or collusion, it's just political maneuvering born out of naked self interest.