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		<title>By: Obama’s Next Step on Transparency: A Shortcut &#124; Think Tank West</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2009/01/29/walking-away-from-transparency-step-two/comment-page-1/#comment-62796</link>
		<dc:creator>Obama’s Next Step on Transparency: A Shortcut &#124; Think Tank West</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 16:46:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] following President Obama&#8217;s early moves on government transparency on the Tech Liberation Front blog and here on [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] following President Obama&rsquo;s early moves on government transparency on the Tech Liberation Front blog and here on [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Obama’s First Broken Campaign Promise &#124; Think Tank West</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2009/01/29/walking-away-from-transparency-step-two/comment-page-1/#comment-61699</link>
		<dc:creator>Obama’s First Broken Campaign Promise &#124; Think Tank West</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 20:15:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Instead of posting bills sent to him by Congress for five days and taking public comment, President Obama signed non-emergency legislation the day after receiving it. PolitiFact.com rated this as President Obama&#8217;s first broken campaign [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Instead of posting bills sent to him by Congress for five days and taking public comment, President Obama signed non-emergency legislation the day after receiving it. PolitiFact.com rated this as President Obama&rsquo;s first broken campaign [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Phil M</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2009/01/29/walking-away-from-transparency-step-two/comment-page-1/#comment-65296</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 06:20:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Note that the following was &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog_post/update_on_sunlight_before_signing/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;posted&lt;/a&gt; to the White House blog today:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;i&gt;&quot;As we&#039;ve noted on the blog, the President has signed the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act and the Children’s Health Insurance Program Reauthorization Act. We&#039;ve also published the DTV Delay Act of 2009.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;Since a few questions have come in, we want to update you on the President&#039;s campaign commitment to introducing more sunlight into the lawmaking process by posting non-emergency legislation online for five days before signing it. This policy will be implemented in full soon; currently we are working through implementation procedures and some initial issues with the congressional calendar.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;The President remains committed to bringing more transparency to government, and in this spirit the White House will continue to publish legislation expected to come to his desk online for public comment as it moves through Congress.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Note that the following was <a href="http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog_post/update_on_sunlight_before_signing/" rel="nofollow">posted</a> to the White House blog today:</p>
<p><i>&#8220;As we&#39;ve noted on the blog, the President has signed the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act and the Children’s Health Insurance Program Reauthorization Act. We&#39;ve also published the DTV Delay Act of 2009.</p>
<p>&#8220;Since a few questions have come in, we want to update you on the President&#39;s campaign commitment to introducing more sunlight into the lawmaking process by posting non-emergency legislation online for five days before signing it. This policy will be implemented in full soon; currently we are working through implementation procedures and some initial issues with the congressional calendar.</p>
<p>&#8220;The President remains committed to bringing more transparency to government, and in this spirit the White House will continue to publish legislation expected to come to his desk online for public comment as it moves through Congress.&#8221;</i></p>
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		<title>By: Phil M</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2009/01/29/walking-away-from-transparency-step-two/comment-page-1/#comment-61591</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 02:20:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Note that the following was &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog_post/update_on_sunlight_before_signing/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;posted&lt;/a&gt; to the White House blog today:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;i&gt;&quot;As we&#039;ve noted on the blog, the President has signed the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act and the Children’s Health Insurance Program Reauthorization Act. We&#039;ve also published the DTV Delay Act of 2009.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;Since a few questions have come in, we want to update you on the President&#039;s campaign commitment to introducing more sunlight into the lawmaking process by posting non-emergency legislation online for five days before signing it. This policy will be implemented in full soon; currently we are working through implementation procedures and some initial issues with the congressional calendar.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;The President remains committed to bringing more transparency to government, and in this spirit the White House will continue to publish legislation expected to come to his desk online for public comment as it moves through Congress.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Note that the following was <a href="http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog_post/update_on_sunlight_before_signing/" rel="nofollow">posted</a> to the White House blog today:</p>
<p><i>&#8220;As we&#39;ve noted on the blog, the President has signed the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act and the Children’s Health Insurance Program Reauthorization Act. We&#39;ve also published the DTV Delay Act of 2009.</p>
<p>&#8220;Since a few questions have come in, we want to update you on the President&#39;s campaign commitment to introducing more sunlight into the lawmaking process by posting non-emergency legislation online for five days before signing it. This policy will be implemented in full soon; currently we are working through implementation procedures and some initial issues with the congressional calendar.</p>
<p>&#8220;The President remains committed to bringing more transparency to government, and in this spirit the White House will continue to publish legislation expected to come to his desk online for public comment as it moves through Congress.&#8221;</i></p>
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		<title>By: Phil M</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2009/01/29/walking-away-from-transparency-step-two/comment-page-1/#comment-57953</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 01:20:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Note that the following was &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog_post/update_on_sunlight_before_signing/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;posted&lt;/a&gt; to the White House blog today:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;i&gt;&quot;As we&#039;ve noted on the blog, the President has signed the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act and the Children’s Health Insurance Program Reauthorization Act. We&#039;ve also published the DTV Delay Act of 2009.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;Since a few questions have come in, we want to update you on the President&#039;s campaign commitment to introducing more sunlight into the lawmaking process by posting non-emergency legislation online for five days before signing it. This policy will be implemented in full soon; currently we are working through implementation procedures and some initial issues with the congressional calendar.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;The President remains committed to bringing more transparency to government, and in this spirit the White House will continue to publish legislation expected to come to his desk online for public comment as it moves through Congress.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Note that the following was <a href="http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog_post/update_on_sunlight_before_signing/" rel="nofollow">posted</a> to the White House blog today:</p>
<p><i>&#8220;As we&#39;ve noted on the blog, the President has signed the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act and the Children’s Health Insurance Program Reauthorization Act. We&#39;ve also published the DTV Delay Act of 2009.</p>
<p>&#8220;Since a few questions have come in, we want to update you on the President&#39;s campaign commitment to introducing more sunlight into the lawmaking process by posting non-emergency legislation online for five days before signing it. This policy will be implemented in full soon; currently we are working through implementation procedures and some initial issues with the congressional calendar.</p>
<p>&#8220;The President remains committed to bringing more transparency to government, and in this spirit the White House will continue to publish legislation expected to come to his desk online for public comment as it moves through Congress.&#8221;</i></p>
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		<title>By: The More Things Change&#8230; Part V &#171; Kirsten in Montana</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2009/01/29/walking-away-from-transparency-step-two/comment-page-1/#comment-57951</link>
		<dc:creator>The More Things Change&#8230; Part V &#171; Kirsten in Montana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 00:03:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The CNET article continues: As for the president&#8217;s commitment to transparency, he has already violated his pledge to post all nonemergency bills on the Whitehouse.gov Web site for five days before signing them. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The CNET article continues: As for the president&#8217;s commitment to transparency, he has already violated his pledge to post all nonemergency bills on the Whitehouse.gov Web site for five days before signing them. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: quanticle</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2009/01/29/walking-away-from-transparency-step-two/comment-page-1/#comment-57810</link>
		<dc:creator>quanticle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 20:24:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Where were the current complaining voices during the previous administration? A larger number of people are choosing to be vocal about the shortcomings of this new administration, while at the same time 8 and again 4 years they opted for silence.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;p&gt;However, the previous administration didn&#039;t promise transparency.  In fact, in several comments attributed to Dick Cheney, they promised the exact opposite - more secrecy, more covert action, all in the name of keeping us secure and free from future terrorist attack.  Now, one can argue whether more secrecy and more covert actions do in fact keep us free from terrorist attacks, or whether the loss of transparency is worth the gain in safety, but one can&#039;t really accuse the Bush administration of hypocrisy over their opaqueness.  Like it or not, the previous administration never promised to be transparent, and time and again asserted the need for &lt;i&gt;increased&lt;/i&gt; secrecy in the name of security.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Where were the current complaining voices during the previous administration? A larger number of people are choosing to be vocal about the shortcomings of this new administration, while at the same time 8 and again 4 years they opted for silence.</p></blockquote>
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<p>However, the previous administration didn&#39;t promise transparency.  In fact, in several comments attributed to Dick Cheney, they promised the exact opposite &#8211; more secrecy, more covert action, all in the name of keeping us secure and free from future terrorist attack.  Now, one can argue whether more secrecy and more covert actions do in fact keep us free from terrorist attacks, or whether the loss of transparency is worth the gain in safety, but one can&#39;t really accuse the Bush administration of hypocrisy over their opaqueness.  Like it or not, the previous administration never promised to be transparent, and time and again asserted the need for <i>increased</i> secrecy in the name of security.</p>
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		<title>By: dm</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2009/01/29/walking-away-from-transparency-step-two/comment-page-1/#comment-57803</link>
		<dc:creator>dm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 17:01:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not fair, JF.  People kvetched about transparency then, too --- it&#039;s just that now the kvetching might actually have some positive effect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not fair, JF.  People kvetched about transparency then, too &#8212; it&#39;s just that now the kvetching might actually have some positive effect.</p>
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		<title>By: JF</title>
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		<dc:creator>JF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 16:15:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aside from a small number of geeks and political junkies (like us) there a few more that truly care about this issue.  Should the president be true to his word and post the legislation before signing? Yes, but will it truly make a difference? I don&#039;t think so. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I know this could mean the start of slippery slope and worse comes to worst and we are back at the Bush years. But for once I am glad that the whitehouse.gov has been providing relevant content that matters and affects the life off the people, instead of the adventures of the First Dog.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In all honesty this failure from the new administration is minimal compared to the many, many, many, many (you get the point) mistakes of the previous secretive administration. Which brings me to following point: Where were the current complaining voices during the previous administration? A larger number of people are choosing to be vocal about the shortcomings of this new administration, while at the same time 8 and again 4 years they opted for silence. The people&#039;s responsibility is to keep government on check (whether our guy won or not) but for so long we have allowed the politics of fear to drive our decisions. It is time for the people start being intentional, effective, and unapologetic in reclaiming this country of ours from the bottom up. Our city, county, and state leadership must understand they serve the people. Most of us are eager to criticize and bully the federal government, but won&#039;t give a second thought to what happens on our backyards. Just some food for thought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aside from a small number of geeks and political junkies (like us) there a few more that truly care about this issue.  Should the president be true to his word and post the legislation before signing? Yes, but will it truly make a difference? I don&#39;t think so. </p>
<p>I know this could mean the start of slippery slope and worse comes to worst and we are back at the Bush years. But for once I am glad that the whitehouse.gov has been providing relevant content that matters and affects the life off the people, instead of the adventures of the First Dog.  </p>
<p>In all honesty this failure from the new administration is minimal compared to the many, many, many, many (you get the point) mistakes of the previous secretive administration. Which brings me to following point: Where were the current complaining voices during the previous administration? A larger number of people are choosing to be vocal about the shortcomings of this new administration, while at the same time 8 and again 4 years they opted for silence. The people&#39;s responsibility is to keep government on check (whether our guy won or not) but for so long we have allowed the politics of fear to drive our decisions. It is time for the people start being intentional, effective, and unapologetic in reclaiming this country of ours from the bottom up. Our city, county, and state leadership must understand they serve the people. Most of us are eager to criticize and bully the federal government, but won&#39;t give a second thought to what happens on our backyards. Just some food for thought.</p>
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		<title>By: And the Press Want Their Transparency Too . . . &#124; The Technology Liberation Front</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2009/01/29/walking-away-from-transparency-step-two/comment-page-1/#comment-57798</link>
		<dc:creator>And the Press Want Their Transparency Too . . . &#124; The Technology Liberation Front</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 13:33:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] impediments to transparency, so I don&#8217;t count them as Obama administration &#8220;steps away from transparency.&#8221; But these impediments exist in part because they maintain the obscurity of [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] impediments to transparency, so I don&#8217;t count them as Obama administration &#8220;steps away from transparency.&#8221; But these impediments exist in part because they maintain the obscurity of [...]</p>
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		<title>By: dm</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2009/01/29/walking-away-from-transparency-step-two/comment-page-1/#comment-57791</link>
		<dc:creator>dm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 02:37:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You have a point, but considering that getting this law enacted was a prominent issue in the election, the public comment period basically ended last November.  It&#039;s not like public comment was going to change the outcome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have a point, but considering that getting this law enacted was a prominent issue in the election, the public comment period basically ended last November.  It&#39;s not like public comment was going to change the outcome.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin D</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2009/01/29/walking-away-from-transparency-step-two/comment-page-1/#comment-57786</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 23:39:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Getting credit from the ACLU is much more important than pleasing the relatively tiny coterie of transparency fans - and there is almost no expectation among the public that a White House should practice good lawmaking hygiene.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Wait a minute... isn&#039;t the ACLU a part of the tiny coterie of transparency fans? &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But, yeah, Obama better get on board and wait 5 days.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Getting credit from the ACLU is much more important than pleasing the relatively tiny coterie of transparency fans &#8211; and there is almost no expectation among the public that a White House should practice good lawmaking hygiene.&#8221;</p>
<p>Wait a minute&#8230; isn&#39;t the ACLU a part of the tiny coterie of transparency fans? </p>
<p>But, yeah, Obama better get on board and wait 5 days.</p>
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