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		<title>By: The Progress &#38; Freedom Foundation Blog</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2008/12/24/lessig-on-building-a-better-bureaucrat/comment-page-1/#comment-60486</link>
		<dc:creator>The Progress &#38; Freedom Foundation Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 03:20:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Free Press, Robert McChesney &amp; the &quot;Struggle&quot; for Media...&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I&#039;ve spent a lot of time here deconstructing and criticizing the proposals set forth by the Free Press, the radical media &quot;reformista&quot; group founded by the prolific Marxist media theorist Robert McChesney. I have been trying to shine more light......&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Free Press, Robert McChesney &amp; the &#8220;Struggle&#8221; for Media&#8230;</strong></p>

<p>I&#8217;ve spent a lot of time here deconstructing and criticizing the proposals set forth by the Free Press, the radical media &#8220;reformista&#8221; group founded by the prolific Marxist media theorist Robert McChesney. I have been trying to shine more light&#8230;&#8230;</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Free Press, Robert McChesney &#38; the &#8220;Struggle&#8221; for Media</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2008/12/24/lessig-on-building-a-better-bureaucrat/comment-page-1/#comment-60480</link>
		<dc:creator>Free Press, Robert McChesney &#38; the &#8220;Struggle&#8221; for Media</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 02:54:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] know&#8230; like himself.  But that&#8217;s nonsense.  See my old essay on the fantasy of &#8220;Building a Better Bureaucrat&#8221; or Tim Lee&#8217;s old essay on &#8220;Real Regulators&#8221; for more details on why it [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] know&#8230; like himself.  But that&#8217;s nonsense.  See my old essay on the fantasy of &#8220;Building a Better Bureaucrat&#8221; or Tim Lee&#8217;s old essay on &#8220;Real Regulators&#8221; for more details on why it [...]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Brett Glass</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2008/12/24/lessig-on-building-a-better-bureaucrat/comment-page-1/#comment-65589</link>
		<dc:creator>Brett Glass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 08:50:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hmmm. Isn&#039;t the assertion that &quot;you can&#039;t fix DNA&quot; a racist remark?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In any event, it&#039;s interesting that Lessig first calls for an end to unnecessary regulation and then, almost immediately, calls for &quot;network neutrality&quot; legislation. I guess Google is paying him well.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm. Isn&#39;t the assertion that &#8220;you can&#39;t fix DNA&#8221; a racist remark?<br /><br />In any event, it&#39;s interesting that Lessig first calls for an end to unnecessary regulation and then, almost immediately, calls for &#8220;network neutrality&#8221; legislation. I guess Google is paying him well.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Brett Glass</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2008/12/24/lessig-on-building-a-better-bureaucrat/comment-page-1/#comment-61548</link>
		<dc:creator>Brett Glass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 04:50:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hmmm. Isn&#039;t the assertion that &quot;you can&#039;t fix DNA&quot; a racist remark?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In any event, it&#039;s interesting that Lessig first calls for an end to unnecessary regulation and then, almost immediately, calls for &quot;network neutrality&quot; legislation. I guess Google is paying him well.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm. Isn&#39;t the assertion that &#8220;you can&#39;t fix DNA&#8221; a racist remark?<br /><br />In any event, it&#39;s interesting that Lessig first calls for an end to unnecessary regulation and then, almost immediately, calls for &#8220;network neutrality&#8221; legislation. I guess Google is paying him well.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Brett Glass</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2008/12/24/lessig-on-building-a-better-bureaucrat/comment-page-1/#comment-57397</link>
		<dc:creator>Brett Glass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 03:50:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hmmm. Isn&#039;t the assertion that &quot;you can&#039;t fix DNA&quot; a racist remark?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In any event, it&#039;s interesting that Lessig first calls for an end to unnecessary regulation and then, almost immediately, calls for &quot;network neutrality&quot; legislation. I guess Google is paying him well.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm. Isn&#39;t the assertion that &#8220;you can&#39;t fix DNA&#8221; a racist remark?<br /><br />In any event, it&#39;s interesting that Lessig first calls for an end to unnecessary regulation and then, almost immediately, calls for &#8220;network neutrality&#8221; legislation. I guess Google is paying him well.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Your industry informationguide</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2008/12/24/lessig-on-building-a-better-bureaucrat/comment-page-1/#comment-57368</link>
		<dc:creator>Your industry informationguide</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 05:29:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;With so many things going wrong, there is a need for better governance and  bureaucrats. But then, it again depends on people coming together to voice their opinions and form string bonds for the betterment of the world.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With so many things going wrong, there is a need for better governance and  bureaucrats. But then, it again depends on people coming together to voice their opinions and form string bonds for the betterment of the world.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: eee_eff</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2008/12/24/lessig-on-building-a-better-bureaucrat/comment-page-1/#comment-57290</link>
		<dc:creator>eee_eff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 03:19:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;Now, I certainly realize how unpopular this will be to some, but if you believe in the plain text of the Constitution then you should respect the right of citizens (including corporate entities) to petition (i.e., “lobby”)&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Silly.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;First, citizens do not equal corporations.  &lt;br&gt;See:http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1010954&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Second, lobbying is very different from petitioning.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Now, I certainly realize how unpopular this will be to some, but if you believe in the plain text of the Constitution then you should respect the right of citizens (including corporate entities) to petition (i.e., “lobby”)</i><br /><br />Silly.  <br /><br />First, citizens do not equal corporations.  <br />See:<a href="http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1010954" rel="nofollow">http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1010954</a><br /><br />Second, lobbying is very different from petitioning.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Alan</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2008/12/24/lessig-on-building-a-better-bureaucrat/comment-page-1/#comment-57276</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 19:13:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;One aspect of this issue you don&#039;t seem to get... the American people want, and expect, and demand, that the government regulate commercial activity. And that includes commercial as well as consumer interests. All for very good reason.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So the progressive vision of a &quot;scientific&quot; or &quot;professional&quot; bureaucracy  is hopelessly idealistic and utopian? And what is it that you propose to fill the demand? The hopelessly idealistic and utopian ideology of &quot;free markets&quot;? On the reality index, Lessig is way ahead of you.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One aspect of this issue you don&#39;t seem to get&#8230; the American people want, and expect, and demand, that the government regulate commercial activity. And that includes commercial as well as consumer interests. All for very good reason.<br /><br />So the progressive vision of a &#8220;scientific&#8221; or &#8220;professional&#8221; bureaucracy  is hopelessly idealistic and utopian? And what is it that you propose to fill the demand? The hopelessly idealistic and utopian ideology of &#8220;free markets&#8221;? On the reality index, Lessig is way ahead of you.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: JimLakely</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2008/12/24/lessig-on-building-a-better-bureaucrat/comment-page-1/#comment-57261</link>
		<dc:creator>JimLakely</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 00:13:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Great post, as usual, Adam. I must say that I was intrigued to see numerous links and attention paid to Lessig call to &quot;blow up&quot; the FCC. The quick summaries of Lessig&#039;s thesis seemed to hint at a healthy libertarian viewpoint (after all, what is more libertarian than blowing up a federal agency.)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Alas, Lessig&#039;s idea is to blow up the FCC and replace it with an even more focused and aggressive government bureaucracy. I&#039;d prefer a status-quo incompetent FCC to a new regulatory regime. And I&#039;m continually tickled by the &quot;progressive&quot; assumption that only government bureaucrats are objective and competent enough to know what&#039;s best for the public. By default, that is, anyone with &quot;industry ties&quot; works against the public interest -- and the public (the market) is powerless to affect the technology world.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Rubbish. If Lessig is genuinely interested in improving the Net experience for the public, he ought to be in favor of blowing up the FCC and using his influence to push the market to adopt his preferred policies. It&#039;s certainly a more honest, and probably quicker, road.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post, as usual, Adam. I must say that I was intrigued to see numerous links and attention paid to Lessig call to &#8220;blow up&#8221; the FCC. The quick summaries of Lessig&#39;s thesis seemed to hint at a healthy libertarian viewpoint (after all, what is more libertarian than blowing up a federal agency.)<br /><br />Alas, Lessig&#39;s idea is to blow up the FCC and replace it with an even more focused and aggressive government bureaucracy. I&#39;d prefer a status-quo incompetent FCC to a new regulatory regime. And I&#39;m continually tickled by the &#8220;progressive&#8221; assumption that only government bureaucrats are objective and competent enough to know what&#39;s best for the public. By default, that is, anyone with &#8220;industry ties&#8221; works against the public interest &#8212; and the public (the market) is powerless to affect the technology world.<br /><br />Rubbish. If Lessig is genuinely interested in improving the Net experience for the public, he ought to be in favor of blowing up the FCC and using his influence to push the market to adopt his preferred policies. It&#39;s certainly a more honest, and probably quicker, road.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Lessig quiere demoler la FCC</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lessig quiere demoler la FCC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Dec 2008 18:51:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] el particular recomiendo leer el post de Adam Thierer (Lessig on Building a Better Bureaucrat) en Technology Liberation Front cuando nos dice que muchos expertos y políticos creen tontamente [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] el particular recomiendo leer el post de Adam Thierer (Lessig on Building a Better Bureaucrat) en Technology Liberation Front cuando nos dice que muchos expertos y políticos creen tontamente [...]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: bradencox</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2008/12/24/lessig-on-building-a-better-bureaucrat/comment-page-1/#comment-57240</link>
		<dc:creator>bradencox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Dec 2008 19:05:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Wayne Crews and I proposed a pragmatic plan to strip most functions from the FCC in a &lt;a href=&quot;http://cei.org/gencon/025,04911.cfm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;paper&lt;/a&gt; we wrote a few years ago.  In Communications without Commissions, we say the FCC of the near future should focus solely on spectrum, getting spectrum into the marketplace and resolving interference disputes. Three steps for reform:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;1. Restrict FCC jurisdiction so that it can&#039;t regulate IP-based services&lt;br&gt;2. Eliminate economic regulation and divest social policy goals&lt;br&gt;3. Restructure the FCC and Reform Spectrum&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;We&#039;re at a pivotal time now, and policymakers should not perpetuate and generate new rationalizations for FCC oversight of communications. It&#039;s time for a true reformer.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wayne Crews and I proposed a pragmatic plan to strip most functions from the FCC in a <a href="http://cei.org/gencon/025,04911.cfm" rel="nofollow">paper</a> we wrote a few years ago.  In Communications without Commissions, we say the FCC of the near future should focus solely on spectrum, getting spectrum into the marketplace and resolving interference disputes. Three steps for reform:<br /><br />1. Restrict FCC jurisdiction so that it can&#39;t regulate IP-based services<br />2. Eliminate economic regulation and divest social policy goals<br />3. Restructure the FCC and Reform Spectrum<br /><br />We&#39;re at a pivotal time now, and policymakers should not perpetuate and generate new rationalizations for FCC oversight of communications. It&#39;s time for a true reformer.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: MikeRT</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2008/12/24/lessig-on-building-a-better-bureaucrat/comment-page-1/#comment-57233</link>
		<dc:creator>MikeRT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Dec 2008 02:55:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;br&gt;Lessig is essentially calling for the same sort of “scientific” or “professional” bureaucracy that his progressive forefathers advocated a century ago when the modern regulatory leviathan was being envisioned and erected. But what has changed since then? Nothing. Special interests were able to gain influence then just as they do now.&lt;br&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;A government of technocrats is not likely to do much good, even when you look at it on paper. It&#039;s not enough that they be gifted in their field, but they must also be good administrators and be able to play politics. Usually, those characteristics cancel each other out which is no small part of the reason why these proposals have never worked when implemented. Let&#039;s not forget that despite being an engineer by profession, Herbert Hoover didn&#039;t have the administrative skills to streamline government regulation and spending in any ways that limited the damage of the stock market crash or the recession-turned-depression.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><br />Lessig is essentially calling for the same sort of “scientific” or “professional” bureaucracy that his progressive forefathers advocated a century ago when the modern regulatory leviathan was being envisioned and erected. But what has changed since then? Nothing. Special interests were able to gain influence then just as they do now.<br /></blockquote>

<p><br /><br />A government of technocrats is not likely to do much good, even when you look at it on paper. It&#39;s not enough that they be gifted in their field, but they must also be good administrators and be able to play politics. Usually, those characteristics cancel each other out which is no small part of the reason why these proposals have never worked when implemented. Let&#39;s not forget that despite being an engineer by profession, Herbert Hoover didn&#39;t have the administrative skills to streamline government regulation and spending in any ways that limited the damage of the stock market crash or the recession-turned-depression.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: cordblomquist</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2008/12/24/lessig-on-building-a-better-bureaucrat/comment-page-1/#comment-57231</link>
		<dc:creator>cordblomquist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Dec 2008 00:42:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Is there any way to get Professor Lessig to respond to this sort of critique more directly?  I&#039;d love to read a dialogue between Lee/Thierer and Lessig.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is there any way to get Professor Lessig to respond to this sort of critique more directly?  I&#39;d love to read a dialogue between Lee/Thierer and Lessig.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Seth Finkelstein</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2008/12/24/lessig-on-building-a-better-bureaucrat/comment-page-1/#comment-57227</link>
		<dc:creator>Seth Finkelstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2008 20:07:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Adam, as I commented on Lessig&#039;s post, I thought his argument was particularly interesting for being aimed in a Libertarian direction, as an intellectual construct.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;What I didn&#039;t say, was that I thought it wouldn&#039;t work. Same problem as his &lt;em&gt;Eldred&lt;/em&gt; argument. The law professor arguing from abstraction, neglecting that in reality the theory is just in the service of the practice of business-worship. He&#039;d likely just get mad at me then, for being too cynical.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thanks for providing me with proof. 1/2 :-)&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adam, as I commented on Lessig&#39;s post, I thought his argument was particularly interesting for being aimed in a Libertarian direction, as an intellectual construct.<br /><br />What I didn&#39;t say, was that I thought it wouldn&#39;t work. Same problem as his <em>Eldred</em> argument. The law professor arguing from abstraction, neglecting that in reality the theory is just in the service of the practice of business-worship. He&#39;d likely just get mad at me then, for being too cynical.<br /><br />Thanks for providing me with proof. 1/2 <img src='http://techliberation.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Jim Harper</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2008/12/24/lessig-on-building-a-better-bureaucrat/comment-page-1/#comment-57222</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Harper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2008 03:15:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Nice post, Adam.  There seems to be a theme around here lately - whether the Progressive-era ideal of &quot;scientific government&quot; actually began to die when Stephen Breyer admitted its failure, or whether it just went into hiding for a while.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice post, Adam.  There seems to be a theme around here lately &#8211; whether the Progressive-era ideal of &#8220;scientific government&#8221; actually began to die when Stephen Breyer admitted its failure, or whether it just went into hiding for a while.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Jim Harper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Harper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2008 03:07:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;What kind of insane person posts at TLF on Christmas eve?  And what kind of jackass comments on Ch- nevermind.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Merry Christmas, everyone!&lt;/p&gt;
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