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	<title>Comments on: Crowdsourced accountability project: Progress, but we still need help from developers</title>
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		<title>By: edlerartieda</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2008/12/14/crowdsourced-accountability-project-progress-but-we-still-need-help-from-developers/comment-page-1/#comment-62331</link>
		<dc:creator>edlerartieda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 05:24:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;From the bottom of my heart to all whom are celebrating and on the joyous occasion of the Eid I wish you and all the people in here feel peace, prosperity and happiness. Oes Tsetnoc wishes Happy Eid Mubarak to all.&lt;br&gt;Eid mubarak is a traditional Muslim greeting reserved for use on the festivals of [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the bottom of my heart to all whom are celebrating and on the joyous occasion of the Eid I wish you and all the people in here feel peace, prosperity and happiness. Oes Tsetnoc wishes Happy Eid Mubarak to all.<br />Eid mubarak is a traditional Muslim greeting reserved for use on the festivals of [...]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: edlerartieda</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2008/12/14/crowdsourced-accountability-project-progress-but-we-still-need-help-from-developers/comment-page-1/#comment-61708</link>
		<dc:creator>edlerartieda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 02:08:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks for a nice and informative site. Somehow I was drawn to reading the post and I enjoyed a lot.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for a nice and informative site. Somehow I was drawn to reading the post and I enjoyed a lot.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: edlerartieda</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2008/12/14/crowdsourced-accountability-project-progress-but-we-still-need-help-from-developers/comment-page-1/#comment-60432</link>
		<dc:creator>edlerartieda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 01:08:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks for a nice and informative site. Somehow I was drawn to reading the post and I enjoyed a lot.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for a nice and informative site. Somehow I was drawn to reading the post and I enjoyed a lot.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Criminal Background Check</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2008/12/14/crowdsourced-accountability-project-progress-but-we-still-need-help-from-developers/comment-page-1/#comment-59104</link>
		<dc:creator>Criminal Background Check</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 13:31:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks for a nice and informative site. Somehow I was drawn to reading the post and I enjoyed a lot. Have a nice day!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for a nice and informative site. Somehow I was drawn to reading the post and I enjoyed a lot. Have a nice day!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: camalaniugan toys</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2008/12/14/crowdsourced-accountability-project-progress-but-we-still-need-help-from-developers/comment-page-1/#comment-58861</link>
		<dc:creator>camalaniugan toys</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 01:40:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Some thought were being digest by the others belief. I like this post.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some thought were being digest by the others belief. I like this post.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: simplyjessie</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2008/12/14/crowdsourced-accountability-project-progress-but-we-still-need-help-from-developers/comment-page-1/#comment-58733</link>
		<dc:creator>simplyjessie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 06:48:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Great dude! It&#039;s pretty easy...&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.baselux.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;web conferencing&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great dude! It&#39;s pretty easy&#8230;<br /><br /><a href="http://www.baselux.com" rel="nofollow">web conferencing</a></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Learning Selling</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2008/12/14/crowdsourced-accountability-project-progress-but-we-still-need-help-from-developers/comment-page-1/#comment-58432</link>
		<dc:creator>Learning Selling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 12:25:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;haha easy dude!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>haha easy dude!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: magnum4d</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2008/12/14/crowdsourced-accountability-project-progress-but-we-still-need-help-from-developers/comment-page-1/#comment-58166</link>
		<dc:creator>magnum4d</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2009 09:45:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;How are bridges necessarily &quot;infrastructure&quot; when the most famous pork project of the past 4 years was the &quot;Bridge to Nowhere?&quot; Just throwing money at transportation is pretty porky -- look at Japan.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How are bridges necessarily &#8220;infrastructure&#8221; when the most famous pork project of the past 4 years was the &#8220;Bridge to Nowhere?&#8221; Just throwing money at transportation is pretty porky &#8212; look at Japan.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: TPW 40: Obama, e-Government &#38; Transparency &#124; The Technology Liberation Front</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2008/12/14/crowdsourced-accountability-project-progress-but-we-still-need-help-from-developers/comment-page-1/#comment-57717</link>
		<dc:creator>TPW 40: Obama, e-Government &#38; Transparency &#124; The Technology Liberation Front</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 19:39:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] Institute, who&#8217;s written extensively about transparency and has recently launched an e-Government project called [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Institute, who&#8217;s written extensively about transparency and has recently launched an e-Government project called [...]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Busby SEO Test Entry</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2008/12/14/crowdsourced-accountability-project-progress-but-we-still-need-help-from-developers/comment-page-1/#comment-57422</link>
		<dc:creator>Busby SEO Test Entry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 21:19:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;compelling post&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>compelling post</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Busby SEO</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2008/12/14/crowdsourced-accountability-project-progress-but-we-still-need-help-from-developers/comment-page-1/#comment-57217</link>
		<dc:creator>Busby SEO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 21:45:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;If I can do that thing  I will join. but it&#039;s look like so defficult for me.&lt;br&gt;thanks.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I can do that thing  I will join. but it&#39;s look like so defficult for me.<br />thanks.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: eee_eff</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2008/12/14/crowdsourced-accountability-project-progress-but-we-still-need-help-from-developers/comment-page-1/#comment-57067</link>
		<dc:creator>eee_eff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 02:33:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Well, as usual the pro-TLF camp takes the high road, call someone a turd.   What intelligence!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, as usual the pro-TLF camp takes the high road, call someone a turd.   What intelligence!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Jerry Brito</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2008/12/14/crowdsourced-accountability-project-progress-but-we-still-need-help-from-developers/comment-page-1/#comment-57059</link>
		<dc:creator>Jerry Brito</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 23:16:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Timon, I&#039;ve created a Google group for the project and I hope you&#039;ll join it. You can find it at: &lt;a href=&quot;http://groups.google.com/group/crowdaccountability&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://groups.google.com/group/crowdaccountability&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Timon, I&#39;ve created a Google group for the project and I hope you&#39;ll join it. You can find it at: <a href="http://groups.google.com/group/crowdaccountability" rel="nofollow">http://groups.google.com/group/crowdaccountability</a></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Jerry Brito</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2008/12/14/crowdsourced-accountability-project-progress-but-we-still-need-help-from-developers/comment-page-1/#comment-57058</link>
		<dc:creator>Jerry Brito</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 23:15:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Kevin, I&#039;ve created a Google Group for the project and I hope you&#039;ll join it. You can find it at: &lt;a href=&quot;http://groups.google.com/group/crowdaccountability&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://groups.google.com/group/crowdaccountability&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin, I&#39;ve created a Google Group for the project and I hope you&#39;ll join it. You can find it at: <a href="http://groups.google.com/group/crowdaccountability" rel="nofollow">http://groups.google.com/group/crowdaccountability</a></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: autodidact</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2008/12/14/crowdsourced-accountability-project-progress-but-we-still-need-help-from-developers/comment-page-1/#comment-57057</link>
		<dc:creator>autodidact</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 22:46:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Wow! He&#039;s a global warming denier? I like the guy already.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow! He&#39;s a global warming denier? I like the guy already.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: PJ Doland</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2008/12/14/crowdsourced-accountability-project-progress-but-we-still-need-help-from-developers/comment-page-1/#comment-57050</link>
		<dc:creator>PJ Doland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 17:44:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;There are a couple of different ways to approach this. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The easiest and quickest option would probably be to populate a MediaWiki install with a page for each line item. Then you could build a secondary search interface for the bills, with all the metadata (cost/state/etc.) in a separate database.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The better solution would just be a full custom-built web application. The wiki change/diff tracking is probably the only somewhat complicated element to the process.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are a couple of different ways to approach this. <br /><br />The easiest and quickest option would probably be to populate a MediaWiki install with a page for each line item. Then you could build a secondary search interface for the bills, with all the metadata (cost/state/etc.) in a separate database.<br /><br />The better solution would just be a full custom-built web application. The wiki change/diff tracking is probably the only somewhat complicated element to the process.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: PJ Doland</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2008/12/14/crowdsourced-accountability-project-progress-but-we-still-need-help-from-developers/comment-page-1/#comment-57049</link>
		<dc:creator>PJ Doland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 17:43:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;There are a couple of different ways to approach this. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The easiest and quickest option would probably be to populate a MediaWiki install with a page for each line item. Then you could build a secondary search interface for the bills, with all the metadata (cost/state/etc.) in a separate database.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The better solution would just be a full custom-built web application. The wiki change/diff tracking is probably the only somewhat complicated element to the process.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are a couple of different ways to approach this. <br /><br />The easiest and quickest option would probably be to populate a MediaWiki install with a page for each line item. Then you could build a secondary search interface for the bills, with all the metadata (cost/state/etc.) in a separate database.<br /><br />The better solution would just be a full custom-built web application. The wiki change/diff tracking is probably the only somewhat complicated element to the process.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Jerry Brito</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2008/12/14/crowdsourced-accountability-project-progress-but-we-still-need-help-from-developers/comment-page-1/#comment-57048</link>
		<dc:creator>Jerry Brito</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 17:33:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks so much! I think late today I&#039;ll start a Google Group to coordinate. Cheers!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks so much! I think late today I&#39;ll start a Google Group to coordinate. Cheers!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Jerry Brito</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2008/12/14/crowdsourced-accountability-project-progress-but-we-still-need-help-from-developers/comment-page-1/#comment-57047</link>
		<dc:creator>Jerry Brito</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 17:20:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks, Timon! I&#039;d like to release this ASAP, but beggars can&#039;t be choosers. What do you think is possible?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I think I&#039;m going to let a few more folks find their way here and then I&#039;ll launch a Google Group to coordinate the effort. Thanks again!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Timon! I&#39;d like to release this ASAP, but beggars can&#39;t be choosers. What do you think is possible?<br /><br />I think I&#39;m going to let a few more folks find their way here and then I&#39;ll launch a Google Group to coordinate the effort. Thanks again!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Jerry Brito</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2008/12/14/crowdsourced-accountability-project-progress-but-we-still-need-help-from-developers/comment-page-1/#comment-57045</link>
		<dc:creator>Jerry Brito</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 17:18:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Yes. However we structure this, it should have a search function. That functionality will be made even more useful as users add context using the wiki. They might add some keywords that are relevant but not found in the simple project title that the mayors give us.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes. However we structure this, it should have a search function. That functionality will be made even more useful as users add context using the wiki. They might add some keywords that are relevant but not found in the simple project title that the mayors give us.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: enora</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2008/12/14/crowdsourced-accountability-project-progress-but-we-still-need-help-from-developers/comment-page-1/#comment-57043</link>
		<dc:creator>enora</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 16:29:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m curious, could such a database enable one to pull out types of projects by text.?Such as return all projects with &quot;energy efficient&quot; in the description?  that could provide interesting stats.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;m curious, could such a database enable one to pull out types of projects by text.?Such as return all projects with &#8220;energy efficient&#8221; in the description?  that could provide interesting stats.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Macho Man Savage</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2008/12/14/crowdsourced-accountability-project-progress-but-we-still-need-help-from-developers/comment-page-1/#comment-57041</link>
		<dc:creator>Macho Man Savage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 15:25:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Wow, what a complete turd you are.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, what a complete turd you are.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: timon</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2008/12/14/crowdsourced-accountability-project-progress-but-we-still-need-help-from-developers/comment-page-1/#comment-57032</link>
		<dc:creator>timon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 09:52:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&quot;provide water to the 53 Estetes subdivision&quot;... sounds stimulating!  Tasers and PCs for cops, $60,000,000 in new equipment for an Austin public agency that is expected to produce 0 jobs, whereas $70,000,000 worth of road building in another jurisdiction is expected to produce 42,000 jobs.  And this is supposed to be the &lt;em&gt;corrective&lt;/em&gt; to bad accounting.  It is also fascinating to see requests for amounts like $23,580,821, or that a given project will create 101 jobs.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I would be happy to help with this if I can.  As far as preliminary visualization, there is a nice firefox plugin for browsing sqlite files &lt;a href=&#039;https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/5817&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.  I had to rebuild it as a sqlite3 file to make it work with that add-on, I put that version up &lt;a href=&quot;http://qdbp.net/mayors/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.  I also adapted some of Kevin&#039;s code to make it work with MySQL.  If the goal is just to have a page with the Mayors&#039; description and wiki and comment widgets, that shouldn&#039;t be too hard.  It would be interesting but more challenging to come up with some good heuristics that give you a feel for overall fishiness of a given project -- say cities or proposals that are unusually expensive compared to some norm within a category.  I will futz with this and try to make something interesting.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;What is your goal as far as time to release?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;provide water to the 53 Estetes subdivision&#8221;&#8230; sounds stimulating!  Tasers and PCs for cops, $60,000,000 in new equipment for an Austin public agency that is expected to produce 0 jobs, whereas $70,000,000 worth of road building in another jurisdiction is expected to produce 42,000 jobs.  And this is supposed to be the <em>corrective</em> to bad accounting.  It is also fascinating to see requests for amounts like $23,580,821, or that a given project will create 101 jobs.<br /><br />I would be happy to help with this if I can.  As far as preliminary visualization, there is a nice firefox plugin for browsing sqlite files <a href=&#39;<a href="https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/5817&#038;#39" rel="nofollow">https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/5817&#038;#39</a>; rel=&#8221;nofollow&#8221;>here.  I had to rebuild it as a sqlite3 file to make it work with that add-on, I put that version up <a href="http://qdbp.net/mayors/" rel="nofollow">here</a>.  I also adapted some of Kevin&#39;s code to make it work with MySQL.  If the goal is just to have a page with the Mayors&#39; description and wiki and comment widgets, that shouldn&#39;t be too hard.  It would be interesting but more challenging to come up with some good heuristics that give you a feel for overall fishiness of a given project &#8212; say cities or proposals that are unusually expensive compared to some norm within a category.  I will futz with this and try to make something interesting.<br /><br />What is your goal as far as time to release?</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: BusbySeo</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2008/12/14/crowdsourced-accountability-project-progress-but-we-still-need-help-from-developers/comment-page-1/#comment-57031</link>
		<dc:creator>BusbySeo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 08:29:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Davvero non voglio ringraziarvi per questo articolo che rafforzare la mia sapienza e della scienza ...&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Davvero non voglio ringraziarvi per questo articolo che rafforzare la mia sapienza e della scienza &#8230;</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: snyderp</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2008/12/14/crowdsourced-accountability-project-progress-but-we-still-need-help-from-developers/comment-page-1/#comment-57029</link>
		<dc:creator>snyderp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 05:11:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I am a PHP / Rails freelancer and am interested in this project.  I&#039;ve got a good amount of experience doing custom app creation along these lines, though less using the specific packages you mentioned.  I don&#039;t regularly follow the comments sections on this blog (I use google reader) but if you&#039;re interested in adding a developer to the team, feel free to contact me at snyderp - at - gmail &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;d love to be a part of this projet.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Pete&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a PHP / Rails freelancer and am interested in this project.  I&#39;ve got a good amount of experience doing custom app creation along these lines, though less using the specific packages you mentioned.  I don&#39;t regularly follow the comments sections on this blog (I use google reader) but if you&#39;re interested in adding a developer to the team, feel free to contact me at snyderp &#8211; at &#8211; gmail <br /><br />I&#39;d love to be a part of this projet.<br /><br />Pete</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: eee_eff</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2008/12/14/crowdsourced-accountability-project-progress-but-we-still-need-help-from-developers/comment-page-1/#comment-57025</link>
		<dc:creator>eee_eff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 04:16:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Crowdsourcing as a methodolgy to decide which of these projects to proceed with seems particularly bad.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;What training experience and education does the average citizen have to enable them to measure and evaluate different projects?  Less populous areas will have their projects left out, while cities, having higher internet connectivty and population, would probably have their projects voted up.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Perhaps crowd sourcing each project to a community of experts who could evaluate different projects would make more sense.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;My vote would go to those projects which make our communities greener and more sustainable--only have to look at the mess in Iraq and the ruined US automakers to see where ignoring little things like fuel economy and our reliance on oversees energy gets us in the long run.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Didn&#039;t you have a series of post arguing against the CAFE standards, Jerry, or was that one of the other &#039;free marketeer&#039; here at TLF?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Crowdsourcing as a methodolgy to decide which of these projects to proceed with seems particularly bad.<br /><br />What training experience and education does the average citizen have to enable them to measure and evaluate different projects?  Less populous areas will have their projects left out, while cities, having higher internet connectivty and population, would probably have their projects voted up.<br /><br />Perhaps crowd sourcing each project to a community of experts who could evaluate different projects would make more sense.<br /><br />My vote would go to those projects which make our communities greener and more sustainable&#8211;only have to look at the mess in Iraq and the ruined US automakers to see where ignoring little things like fuel economy and our reliance on oversees energy gets us in the long run.<br /><br />Didn&#39;t you have a series of post arguing against the CAFE standards, Jerry, or was that one of the other &#39;free marketeer&#39; here at TLF?</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: eee_eff</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2008/12/14/crowdsourced-accountability-project-progress-but-we-still-need-help-from-developers/comment-page-1/#comment-57024</link>
		<dc:creator>eee_eff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 04:05:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I&#039;d like to participate in such a project, however Jerry Brito&#039;s track recordd of repeatedly deleting my posts because he disagrees with them causes me to question whether any input into this project would be similarly &quot;filtered&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;To create a community you need credibility and moral connectivity. Jerry, by his own actions, has cast himself outside of any community with common goals and destroyed his own credibility.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Outside of Jerry brito&#039;s own issues, this website has a clear political agenda, and is deeply mired in anti-social actions of its corporate paymasters. Examples: denial of global warming, and acting as apologists for Microsoft&#039;s many repressive actions.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;eee_eff&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;d like to participate in such a project, however Jerry Brito&#39;s track recordd of repeatedly deleting my posts because he disagrees with them causes me to question whether any input into this project would be similarly &#8220;filtered&#8221;<br /><br />To create a community you need credibility and moral connectivity. Jerry, by his own actions, has cast himself outside of any community with common goals and destroyed his own credibility.<br /><br />Outside of Jerry brito&#39;s own issues, this website has a clear political agenda, and is deeply mired in anti-social actions of its corporate paymasters. Examples: denial of global warming, and acting as apologists for Microsoft&#39;s many repressive actions.<br /><br />eee_eff</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: kvn</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2008/12/14/crowdsourced-accountability-project-progress-but-we-still-need-help-from-developers/comment-page-1/#comment-57020</link>
		<dc:creator>kvn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 02:33:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;This might be a good candidate for a Google appengine project.  I signed up for an account months ago and have been looking for a problem that could be suitable for it.  I&#039;ll see how hard it is to move the data into one of their Datastores and throw up a dirty GUI for browsing.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This might be a good candidate for a Google appengine project.  I signed up for an account months ago and have been looking for a problem that could be suitable for it.  I&#39;ll see how hard it is to move the data into one of their Datastores and throw up a dirty GUI for browsing.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Jerry Brito</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2008/12/14/crowdsourced-accountability-project-progress-but-we-still-need-help-from-developers/comment-page-1/#comment-57019</link>
		<dc:creator>Jerry Brito</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 02:20:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;True. That&#039;s why folks with local knowledge can use this tool to put the project in context. It&#039;s not going to be a perfect tool, but it will hopefully leave us at the end of the day with more information than we have now. Right now we just have to take the mayors&#039; word that all $73 billion are worth spending.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>True. That&#39;s why folks with local knowledge can use this tool to put the project in context. It&#39;s not going to be a perfect tool, but it will hopefully leave us at the end of the day with more information than we have now. Right now we just have to take the mayors&#39; word that all $73 billion are worth spending.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Don Marti</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2008/12/14/crowdsourced-accountability-project-progress-but-we-still-need-help-from-developers/comment-page-1/#comment-57018</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Marti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 02:08:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;How are bridges necessarily &quot;infrastructure&quot; when the most famous pork project of the past 4 years was the &quot;Bridge to Nowhere?&quot;  Just throwing money at transportation is pretty porky -- look at Japan.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How are bridges necessarily &#8220;infrastructure&#8221; when the most famous pork project of the past 4 years was the &#8220;Bridge to Nowhere?&#8221;  Just throwing money at transportation is pretty porky &#8212; look at Japan.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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