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	<title>Comments on: Collective Ownership vs. Non-ownership: A Primer</title>
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		<title>By: richardaroberts776</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2008/11/28/collective-ownership-vs-non-ownership-a-primer/comment-page-1/#comment-65690</link>
		<dc:creator>richardaroberts776</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 18:57:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;States in the Midwest are considering funding supplemental Amtrak routes… even though President Bush has zeroed out the Amtrak budget. The Great &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amtrakpromotioncode.net&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;amtrak promotion code&lt;/a&gt; Lakes Radio Consortium&#039;s Lester Graham reports:&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>States in the Midwest are considering funding supplemental Amtrak routes… even though President Bush has zeroed out the Amtrak budget. The Great <a href="http://www.amtrakpromotioncode.net" rel="nofollow">amtrak promotion code</a> Lakes Radio Consortium&#39;s Lester Graham reports:</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: richardaroberts776</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2008/11/28/collective-ownership-vs-non-ownership-a-primer/comment-page-1/#comment-61753</link>
		<dc:creator>richardaroberts776</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 14:57:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;States in the Midwest are considering funding supplemental Amtrak routes… even though President Bush has zeroed out the Amtrak budget. The Great &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amtrakpromotioncode.net&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;amtrak promotion code&lt;/a&gt; Lakes Radio Consortium&#039;s Lester Graham reports:&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>States in the Midwest are considering funding supplemental Amtrak routes… even though President Bush has zeroed out the Amtrak budget. The Great <a href="http://www.amtrakpromotioncode.net" rel="nofollow">amtrak promotion code</a> Lakes Radio Consortium&#39;s Lester Graham reports:</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: richardaroberts776</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2008/11/28/collective-ownership-vs-non-ownership-a-primer/comment-page-1/#comment-60860</link>
		<dc:creator>richardaroberts776</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 13:57:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;States in the Midwest are considering funding supplemental Amtrak routes… even though President Bush has zeroed out the Amtrak budget. The Great &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amtrakpromotioncode.net&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;amtrak promotion code&lt;/a&gt; Lakes Radio Consortium&#039;s Lester Graham reports:&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>States in the Midwest are considering funding supplemental Amtrak routes… even though President Bush has zeroed out the Amtrak budget. The Great <a href="http://www.amtrakpromotioncode.net" rel="nofollow">amtrak promotion code</a> Lakes Radio Consortium&#39;s Lester Graham reports:</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: sblservices</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2008/11/28/collective-ownership-vs-non-ownership-a-primer/comment-page-1/#comment-59622</link>
		<dc:creator>sblservices</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 06:04:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks for sharing and keep posting with more new information...&lt;br&gt;Regards,&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.saibposervices.com/Outsourcing_for_Legal_Projects.aspx&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; &lt;br&gt;Legal process outsourcing &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for sharing and keep posting with more new information&#8230;<br />Regards,<br /><a href="http://www.saibposervices.com/Outsourcing_for_Legal_Projects.aspx" rel="nofollow"> <br />Legal process outsourcing </a></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: eBOOK Download</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2008/11/28/collective-ownership-vs-non-ownership-a-primer/comment-page-1/#comment-58645</link>
		<dc:creator>eBOOK Download</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 14:54:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;wow fantastic content! Thank you for sharing!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow fantastic content! Thank you for sharing!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: andyinsdca</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2008/11/28/collective-ownership-vs-non-ownership-a-primer/comment-page-1/#comment-56819</link>
		<dc:creator>andyinsdca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 20:15:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&quot;Tragedy of the commons&quot; anyone?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Tragedy of the commons&#8221; anyone?</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: rawdawgbuffalo</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2008/11/28/collective-ownership-vs-non-ownership-a-primer/comment-page-1/#comment-56799</link>
		<dc:creator>rawdawgbuffalo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 19:23:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;im mtired of all this treasury shooting from the hips and the resulting &lt;a href=&#039;http://rawdawgb.blogspot.com/2008/11/shoulda-coulda-woulda.html&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;shoulda, coulda, woulda&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>im mtired of all this treasury shooting from the hips and the resulting <a href=&#39;<a href="http://rawdawgb.blogspot.com/2008/11/shoulda-coulda-woulda.html&#038;#39" rel="nofollow">http://rawdawgb.blogspot.com/2008/11/shoulda-coulda-woulda.html&#038;#39</a>; rel=&#8221;nofollow&#8221;>shoulda, coulda, woulda</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: MikeRT</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2008/11/28/collective-ownership-vs-non-ownership-a-primer/comment-page-1/#comment-56793</link>
		<dc:creator>MikeRT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 04:42:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;USPS, NHS, American public schools and Amtrak...&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;ve never seen a list that makes such a decent case against government running economic functions.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>USPS, NHS, American public schools and Amtrak&#8230;<br /><br />I&#39;ve never seen a list that makes such a decent case against government running economic functions.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: mwendy</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2008/11/28/collective-ownership-vs-non-ownership-a-primer/comment-page-1/#comment-56791</link>
		<dc:creator>mwendy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 22:25:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Jayel, all property is an illusion.  No one owns anything.  The systems that we have - those like copyright and patents - seek to balance this illusion to achieve socially desirable goals.  Sure - they may get in the way of you expropriating ideas not discovered or risked by you - but isn&#039;t that the point?  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;We determine that a very good way to generate the initial innovation is by granting &quot;monopolies&quot; on those ideas, which allow those who discovered them to have more assurance their risk will be rewarded.  It brings creators to the table.  Government plays an important role - it creates then enforces the right which enables a lot of creators to create to the benefit of mankind.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;We call IP a private property right because we can.  Sure, it&#039;s a crummy system - until you look at all the others.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jayel, all property is an illusion.  No one owns anything.  The systems that we have &#8211; those like copyright and patents &#8211; seek to balance this illusion to achieve socially desirable goals.  Sure &#8211; they may get in the way of you expropriating ideas not discovered or risked by you &#8211; but isn&#39;t that the point?  <br /><br />We determine that a very good way to generate the initial innovation is by granting &#8220;monopolies&#8221; on those ideas, which allow those who discovered them to have more assurance their risk will be rewarded.  It brings creators to the table.  Government plays an important role &#8211; it creates then enforces the right which enables a lot of creators to create to the benefit of mankind.<br /><br />We call IP a private property right because we can.  Sure, it&#39;s a crummy system &#8211; until you look at all the others.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Jayel Aheram</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2008/11/28/collective-ownership-vs-non-ownership-a-primer/comment-page-1/#comment-56788</link>
		<dc:creator>Jayel Aheram</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 15:28:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;God, yes. I have been accused of being a socialist regarding my views about intellectual property in the Flickr forums (Help and FlickrCentral).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Of course, there are many in the copyfight that are indeed copyleftist. That is, they wrongly conclude that intellectual property is anything like real private property rights and so are against it by that very fact. And many libertarians instinctively come to the defense of IP because they also conclude that it is anything like private property.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Copypriveleges and intellectual monopolies abridge private property rights.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You are right. It is a government-granted monopoly. And when businesses collude with government in the enforcement of these monopolies to the detriment of people&#039;s rights, it is called fascism.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>God, yes. I have been accused of being a socialist regarding my views about intellectual property in the Flickr forums (Help and FlickrCentral).<br /><br />Of course, there are many in the copyfight that are indeed copyleftist. That is, they wrongly conclude that intellectual property is anything like real private property rights and so are against it by that very fact. And many libertarians instinctively come to the defense of IP because they also conclude that it is anything like private property.<br /><br />Copypriveleges and intellectual monopolies abridge private property rights.<br /><br />You are right. It is a government-granted monopoly. And when businesses collude with government in the enforcement of these monopolies to the detriment of people&#39;s rights, it is called fascism.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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