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	<title>Comments on: Price Fixing in the LCD Business Sure Doesn&#8217;t Seem to Do Much Good!</title>
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		<title>By: davematthews &#187; Blog Archive &#187; A Lightweight Projector is Your Business Hero</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 02:11:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] HDTV? &#8211; TrekUnited ForumWhat will it be? &#8211; :: LEAST I COULD DO FORUM :: &#8211; Page 2Price Fixing in the LCD Business Sure Doesn&#039;t Seem to Do Much &#8230;Home Cinema Choice Awards 2006 &#8211; Reviews &amp; AwardsAVF Nexus &#8211; Supporting the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Price Fixing in the LCD Business Sure Doesn 39 t Seem to Do Much Good &#124; Wood TV Stand</title>
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		<dc:creator>Price Fixing in the LCD Business Sure Doesn 39 t Seem to Do Much Good &#124; Wood TV Stand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2009 23:50:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: TVS_TELEVISIONS</title>
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		<dc:creator>TVS_TELEVISIONS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 02:50:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been looking for blogs related to my foray into e-commerce with lcd&#039;s as the focus for my niche. I enjoyed reading your thoughts on price fixing. Since I targeted Samsung as my first choice it is good to hear that &quot;they weren&#039;t part of the mess&quot; I don&#039;t know about that but I do know that other than a couple of resellers that contribute millions in sales per quarter Samsung holds people very tightly to their MAP policies especially in the online world. I will definitely bookmark this site and check back often for relevant info about my new venture.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been looking for blogs related to my foray into e-commerce with lcd&#39;s as the focus for my niche. I enjoyed reading your thoughts on price fixing. Since I targeted Samsung as my first choice it is good to hear that &#8220;they weren&#39;t part of the mess&#8221; I don&#39;t know about that but I do know that other than a couple of resellers that contribute millions in sales per quarter Samsung holds people very tightly to their MAP policies especially in the online world. I will definitely bookmark this site and check back often for relevant info about my new venture.</p>
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		<title>By: TVS_TELEVISIONS</title>
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		<dc:creator>TVS_TELEVISIONS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 22:50:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been looking for blogs related to my foray into e-commerce with lcd&#039;s as the focus for my niche. I enjoyed reading your thoughts on price fixing. Since I targeted Samsung as my first choice it is good to hear that &quot;they weren&#039;t part of the mess&quot; I don&#039;t know about that but I do know that other than a couple of resellers that contribute millions in sales per quarter Samsung holds people very tightly to their MAP policies especially in the online world. I will definitely bookmark this site and check back often for relevant info about my new venture.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been looking for blogs related to my foray into e-commerce with lcd&#39;s as the focus for my niche. I enjoyed reading your thoughts on price fixing. Since I targeted Samsung as my first choice it is good to hear that &#8220;they weren&#39;t part of the mess&#8221; I don&#39;t know about that but I do know that other than a couple of resellers that contribute millions in sales per quarter Samsung holds people very tightly to their MAP policies especially in the online world. I will definitely bookmark this site and check back often for relevant info about my new venture.</p>
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		<title>By: TVS TELEVISIONS</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2008/11/13/price-fixing-in-the-lcd-business-sure-doesnt-seem-to-do-much-good/comment-page-1/#comment-58290</link>
		<dc:creator>TVS TELEVISIONS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 21:50:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been looking for blogs related to my foray into e-commerce with lcd&#039;s as the focus for my niche. I enjoyed reading your thoughts on price fixing. Since I targeted Samsung as my first choice it is good to hear that &quot;they weren&#039;t part of the mess&quot; I don&#039;t know about that but I do know that other than a couple of resellers that contribute millions in sales per quarter Samsung holds people very tightly to their MAP policies especially in the online world. I will definitely bookmark this site and check back often for relevant info about my new venture.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been looking for blogs related to my foray into e-commerce with lcd&#39;s as the focus for my niche. I enjoyed reading your thoughts on price fixing. Since I targeted Samsung as my first choice it is good to hear that &#8220;they weren&#39;t part of the mess&#8221; I don&#39;t know about that but I do know that other than a couple of resellers that contribute millions in sales per quarter Samsung holds people very tightly to their MAP policies especially in the online world. I will definitely bookmark this site and check back often for relevant info about my new venture.</p>
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		<title>By: HDTV Store</title>
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		<dc:creator>HDTV Store</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 01:55:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe there was an attempt to hold on the prices but to apply the second highest criminal fine It&#039;s to much</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe there was an attempt to hold on the prices but to apply the second highest criminal fine It&#39;s to much</p>
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		<title>By: toyotabedzrock</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 15:08:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First off these three decided to cut a deal and plead guilty. I believe that there is still an ongoing investigation on other large LCD manufactures.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Second i would point your attn to the fact that prices for smaller LCDs has not dropped much if at all for several years now, and that generally wide screen displays in those smaller sizes provide fewer actual pixels. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Also touch screen technology still remains very expensive, and panels that use 8 bits per color have gone up in price.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First off these three decided to cut a deal and plead guilty. I believe that there is still an ongoing investigation on other large LCD manufactures.</p>
<p>Second i would point your attn to the fact that prices for smaller LCDs has not dropped much if at all for several years now, and that generally wide screen displays in those smaller sizes provide fewer actual pixels. </p>
<p>Also touch screen technology still remains very expensive, and panels that use 8 bits per color have gone up in price.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam Thierer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam Thierer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 14:18:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have not looked at the prices from 2001 to 2006, and the 3 operators may indeed have succeeded, on average, in keeping prices fairly level during that period. But it certainly didn&#039;t seem to last long. My point here is not that price fixing is a great thing, or that it never works, it&#039;s that: &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;(1) markets typically evolve to solve these problems because competitors don&#039;t sit still; &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;(2) technological innovations route around attempts to freeze markets; and,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;(3) the remedies pursued by regulators typically take years to enforce and do very little good for consumers in the long-run.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have not looked at the prices from 2001 to 2006, and the 3 operators may indeed have succeeded, on average, in keeping prices fairly level during that period. But it certainly didn&#39;t seem to last long. My point here is not that price fixing is a great thing, or that it never works, it&#39;s that: </p>
<p>(1) markets typically evolve to solve these problems because competitors don&#39;t sit still; </p>
<p>(2) technological innovations route around attempts to freeze markets; and,</p>
<p>(3) the remedies pursued by regulators typically take years to enforce and do very little good for consumers in the long-run.</p>
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		<title>By: Angus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Angus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 13:35:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>did you like at the time from 2001 to 2006. or just the last couple of months?  This case covers 2001 to 2006...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>did you like at the time from 2001 to 2006. or just the last couple of months?  This case covers 2001 to 2006&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Adam Thierer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam Thierer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 19:34:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The more I think about it, the more asinine I find this. Here&#039;s a list of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.displaysearch.com/cps/rde/xchg/displaysearch/hs.xsl/Stronger_Than_Expected_Plasma_Panel_Growth_Q3_08.asp&quot;&gt;the top plasma suppliers&lt;/a&gt; and here&#039;s a list of the &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TFT_LCD#Display_industry &quot;&gt;top TFT-LCD suppliers&lt;/a&gt;. As you will see, the big dog in this sector is Samsung, which is #1 in the LCD market and #2 in the plasma market.  And yet Samsung wasn&#039;t in on the price fixing &quot;cartel&quot; that the DOJ just busted up.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Hmmm... how does one create an effective price fixing cartel without the top dog &lt;em&gt;from both market segments&lt;/em&gt; also being a part of it?  I would also think that Panasonic, which #1 in plasmas, would be all too happy to see the LCD makers try to boost display prices so that they can undercut them and steal away flat-panel market share!  And you may have heard of a couple of these other companies who weren&#039;t part of the &quot;cartel&quot; either: Sony, Hitachi, and Pioneer.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Really, this has got to be THE worst attempt at creating a price fixing cartel that I have ever heard of.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The more I think about it, the more asinine I find this. Here&#39;s a list of <a href="http://www.displaysearch.com/cps/rde/xchg/displaysearch/hs.xsl/Stronger_Than_Expected_Plasma_Panel_Growth_Q3_08.asp">the top plasma suppliers</a> and here&#39;s a list of the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TFT_LCD#Display_industry ">top TFT-LCD suppliers</a>. As you will see, the big dog in this sector is Samsung, which is #1 in the LCD market and #2 in the plasma market.  And yet Samsung wasn&#39;t in on the price fixing &#8220;cartel&#8221; that the DOJ just busted up.  </p>
<p>Hmmm&#8230; how does one create an effective price fixing cartel without the top dog <em>from both market segments</em> also being a part of it?  I would also think that Panasonic, which #1 in plasmas, would be all too happy to see the LCD makers try to boost display prices so that they can undercut them and steal away flat-panel market share!  And you may have heard of a couple of these other companies who weren&#39;t part of the &#8220;cartel&#8221; either: Sony, Hitachi, and Pioneer.  </p>
<p>Really, this has got to be THE worst attempt at creating a price fixing cartel that I have ever heard of.</p>
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