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	<title>Comments on: ASTRA Urges U.S. House Members to Support Economic Recovery Bill</title>
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		<title>By: floatpoint</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2008/10/02/astra-urges-us-house-members-to-support-economic-recovery-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-56835</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 08:05:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks very very interesting!<br />Thanks for letting us know about it.this why i love internet the power of sharing .I am in love with your blog <br />My best regards,</p>
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		<title>By: vonbob</title>
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		<dc:creator>vonbob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 23:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is complete ignorance of the the law to say that a &quot;nonprofit&quot; cannot lobby.  This has never been the case.  There are at least 29 different varieties of &quot;nonprofit&quot; entity and they have different purposes and reasons for existing.  Some, like Spanish American War veterans organizations, probably don&#039;t do much any more.  Nor do Voluntary Employee Beneficiary Associations (VEBA&#039;s)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Actually, Internal Revenue Code 501(c)(3) organizations, which ASTRA is according to its own description, may spend any amount of money on lobbying, but there could be adverse tax consequences for membership dues, etc.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;For that reason, most of them are organized as 501(c)(6) entities, or many other such things.  Unions are (c)(4)&#039;s.  They are tax exempt.  They lobby.  Trade groups are normally (c)(6)&#039;s.  They are tax exempt.  They lobby.  The list could go on and on.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Further, please don&#039;t confuse lobbying with &quot;advocacy.&quot;  ASTRA has asked its &quot;Friends&quot; to weigh in on this one, has suggested why it support the package — because of the so-called extension of the much needed R&amp;E tax credit and the alternative energy tax credit — but even if that is construed as &#039;Lobbying&quot; which I don&#039;t believe it is,  its activities are well within the so-called safe harbor rule which the prior comment states is 5%.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Readers should know that when a membership organization urges its own adherents to say something to elected officials, that is called &quot;grassroots&quot; lobbying, and nothing, except repeal of the U.S. Constitution, or some Supreme Court case to void this cherished First Amendment &quot;RIGHT TO PETITION.&quot;   Nothing precludes the right of ASTRA&#039;s own members to voice their positions to elected officials, except perhaps erroneous information about what they can and cannot do.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Find out more about ASTRA at &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.usinnovation.org&quot;&gt;www.usinnovation.org&lt;/a&gt; or its other Site &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.aboutastra.org&quot;&gt;www.aboutastra.org&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is complete ignorance of the the law to say that a &#8220;nonprofit&#8221; cannot lobby.  This has never been the case.  There are at least 29 different varieties of &#8220;nonprofit&#8221; entity and they have different purposes and reasons for existing.  Some, like Spanish American War veterans organizations, probably don&#39;t do much any more.  Nor do Voluntary Employee Beneficiary Associations (VEBA&#39;s)</p>
<p>Actually, Internal Revenue Code 501(c)(3) organizations, which ASTRA is according to its own description, may spend any amount of money on lobbying, but there could be adverse tax consequences for membership dues, etc.  </p>
<p>For that reason, most of them are organized as 501(c)(6) entities, or many other such things.  Unions are (c)(4)&#39;s.  They are tax exempt.  They lobby.  Trade groups are normally (c)(6)&#39;s.  They are tax exempt.  They lobby.  The list could go on and on.</p>
<p>Further, please don&#39;t confuse lobbying with &#8220;advocacy.&#8221;  ASTRA has asked its &#8220;Friends&#8221; to weigh in on this one, has suggested why it support the package — because of the so-called extension of the much needed R&#038;E tax credit and the alternative energy tax credit — but even if that is construed as &#39;Lobbying&#8221; which I don&#39;t believe it is,  its activities are well within the so-called safe harbor rule which the prior comment states is 5%.</p>
<p>Readers should know that when a membership organization urges its own adherents to say something to elected officials, that is called &#8220;grassroots&#8221; lobbying, and nothing, except repeal of the U.S. Constitution, or some Supreme Court case to void this cherished First Amendment &#8220;RIGHT TO PETITION.&#8221;   Nothing precludes the right of ASTRA&#39;s own members to voice their positions to elected officials, except perhaps erroneous information about what they can and cannot do.</p>
<p>Find out more about ASTRA at <a href="http://www.usinnovation.org">http://www.usinnovation.org</a> or its other Site <a href="http://www.aboutastra.org">http://www.aboutastra.org</a></p>
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		<title>By: DB</title>
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		<dc:creator>DB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 16:25:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They are permitted to spend up to 5% of their budget on this type of lobbying.  I would imagine that it doesn&#039;t cost very much to draft and send a mass e-mail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They are permitted to spend up to 5% of their budget on this type of lobbying.  I would imagine that it doesn&#39;t cost very much to draft and send a mass e-mail.</p>
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