Comments on: Game, Set, and Match: Martin! http://techliberation.com/2008/08/06/game-set-and-match-martin/ Keeping politicians' hands off the Net & everything else related to technology Thu, 05 Aug 2010 11:32:23 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: OswaldjdlkElla http://techliberation.com/2008/08/06/game-set-and-match-martin/comment-page-1/#comment-62678 OswaldjdlkElla Mon, 05 Oct 2009 13:29:16 +0000 http://techliberation.com/?p=11480#comment-62678 Woow This is best blog i have read on the tpoic<br><br>regards<br>gibs<br>______________________________________________<br><a href="http://www.oforu.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">aion gold</a> | <a href="http://www.eing.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Buy Aion Kinah</a> Woow This is best blog i have read on the tpoic

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]]> By: Alex Harris http://techliberation.com/2008/08/06/game-set-and-match-martin/comment-page-1/#comment-44455 Alex Harris Thu, 07 Aug 2008 14:33:34 +0000 http://techliberation.com/?p=11480#comment-44455 Jim,<br><br>It may be interesting to point out that on the very same day that the FCC was castigating Comcast for its non-neutrality, Congress was mandating that universities be non-neutral:<br><a href="http://www.openmarket.org/2008/08/01/fcc-slaps-non-neutral-comcast-while-congress-forces-colleges-to-be-non-neutral/">http://www.openmarket.org/2008/08/01/fcc-slaps-...</a> Jim,

It may be interesting to point out that on the very same day that the FCC was castigating Comcast for its non-neutrality, Congress was mandating that universities be non-neutral:
http://www.openmarket.org/2008/08/01/fcc-slaps-...

]]> By: Alex Harris http://techliberation.com/2008/08/06/game-set-and-match-martin/comment-page-1/#comment-43202 Alex Harris Thu, 07 Aug 2008 13:33:34 +0000 http://techliberation.com/?p=11480#comment-43202 Jim, It may be interesting to point out that on the very same day that the FCC was castigating Comcast for its non-neutrality, Congress was mandating that universities be non-neutral: http://www.openmarket.org/2008/08/01/fcc-slaps-non-neutral-comcast-while-congress-forces-colleges-to-be-non-neutral/ Jim,

It may be interesting to point out that on the very same day that the FCC was castigating Comcast for its non-neutrality, Congress was mandating that universities be non-neutral:
http://www.openmarket.org/2008/08/01/fcc-slaps-non-neutral-comcast-while-congress-forces-colleges-to-be-non-neutral/

]]> By: Richard Bennett http://techliberation.com/2008/08/06/game-set-and-match-martin/comment-page-1/#comment-44454 Richard Bennett Thu, 07 Aug 2008 03:36:56 +0000 http://techliberation.com/?p=11480#comment-44454 Is Kevin Martin the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evil_genius" rel="nofollow">Cartesian Evil Genius?</a> Maybe so.<br><br>But the net result of neut regs is metered pricing, and the ISPs have to love that. Except the neuts know the ISPs like it, so they don't really want neut regs after all.<br><br>So black is white and white is black. Is Kevin Martin the Cartesian Evil Genius? Maybe so.

But the net result of neut regs is metered pricing, and the ISPs have to love that. Except the neuts know the ISPs like it, so they don’t really want neut regs after all.

So black is white and white is black.

]]> By: Richard Bennett http://techliberation.com/2008/08/06/game-set-and-match-martin/comment-page-1/#comment-43195 Richard Bennett Thu, 07 Aug 2008 02:36:56 +0000 http://techliberation.com/?p=11480#comment-43195 Is Kevin Martin the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evil_genius" rel="nofollow">Cartesian Evil Genius?</a> Maybe so. But the net result of neut regs is metered pricing, and the ISPs have to love that. Except the neuts know the ISPs like it, so they don't really want neut regs after all. So black is white and white is black. Is Kevin Martin the Cartesian Evil Genius? Maybe so.

But the net result of neut regs is metered pricing, and the ISPs have to love that. Except the neuts know the ISPs like it, so they don’t really want neut regs after all.

So black is white and white is black.

]]> By: George Ou http://techliberation.com/2008/08/06/game-set-and-match-martin/comment-page-1/#comment-44453 George Ou Thu, 07 Aug 2008 00:32:20 +0000 http://techliberation.com/?p=11480#comment-44453 There's also a huge difference between corporations and Universities. The corporations pays their employees to use the Internet as a research tool. The students pay their University for room, board, utilities, Internet. There’s also a huge difference between corporations and Universities. The corporations pays their employees to use the Internet as a research tool. The students pay their University for room, board, utilities, Internet.

]]> By: George Ou http://techliberation.com/2008/08/06/game-set-and-match-martin/comment-page-1/#comment-44452 George Ou Thu, 07 Aug 2008 00:29:55 +0000 http://techliberation.com/?p=11480#comment-44452 Universities are open to the public for those who qualify to gain admission. Once those citizens of the public gain admission, they pay "rent" for their tuition their housing, and all other infrastructure needs. The University is acting as an Internet Service Provider to its students. Universities are open to the public for those who qualify to gain admission. Once those citizens of the public gain admission, they pay “rent” for their tuition their housing, and all other infrastructure needs. The University is acting as an Internet Service Provider to its students.

]]> By: orcmid http://techliberation.com/2008/08/06/game-set-and-match-martin/comment-page-1/#comment-44451 orcmid Wed, 06 Aug 2008 23:36:32 +0000 http://techliberation.com/?p=11480#comment-44451 I don't get it. <br><br>Universities are not operating a service to the public, any more than internal corporate internets are. Both are in a position to manage network activity as part of assuring their institutional purpose (however different the university one is from the corporate one).<br><br>Making an equivalence with regard to FCC regulatory authority seems very weird to me.<br><br>And, ahem, recent legislation is going to require universities to take pro-active measures against piracy over their networks in order to obtain Federal funds. Way different regulatory regime there, wot? I don’t get it.

Universities are not operating a service to the public, any more than internal corporate internets are. Both are in a position to manage network activity as part of assuring their institutional purpose (however different the university one is from the corporate one).

Making an equivalence with regard to FCC regulatory authority seems very weird to me.

And, ahem, recent legislation is going to require universities to take pro-active measures against piracy over their networks in order to obtain Federal funds. Way different regulatory regime there, wot?

]]> By: George Ou http://techliberation.com/2008/08/06/game-set-and-match-martin/comment-page-1/#comment-43189 George Ou Wed, 06 Aug 2008 23:32:20 +0000 http://techliberation.com/?p=11480#comment-43189 There's also a huge difference between corporations and Universities. The corporations pays their employees to use the Internet as a research tool. The students pay their University for room, board, utilities, Internet. There’s also a huge difference between corporations and Universities. The corporations pays their employees to use the Internet as a research tool. The students pay their University for room, board, utilities, Internet.

]]> By: George Ou http://techliberation.com/2008/08/06/game-set-and-match-martin/comment-page-1/#comment-43188 George Ou Wed, 06 Aug 2008 23:29:55 +0000 http://techliberation.com/?p=11480#comment-43188 Universities are open to the public for those who qualify to gain admission. Once those citizens of the public gain admission, they pay "rent" for their tuition their housing, and all other infrastructure needs. The University is acting as an Internet Service Provider to its students. Universities are open to the public for those who qualify to gain admission. Once those citizens of the public gain admission, they pay “rent” for their tuition their housing, and all other infrastructure needs. The University is acting as an Internet Service Provider to its students.

]]> By: orcmid http://techliberation.com/2008/08/06/game-set-and-match-martin/comment-page-1/#comment-43187 orcmid Wed, 06 Aug 2008 22:36:32 +0000 http://techliberation.com/?p=11480#comment-43187 I don't get it. Universities are not operating a service to the public, any more than internal corporate internets are. Both are in a position to manage network activity as part of assuring their institutional purpose (however different the university one is from the corporate one). Making an equivalence with regard to FCC regulatory authority seems very weird to me. And, ahem, recent legislation is going to require universities to take pro-active measures against piracy over their networks in order to obtain Federal funds. Way different regulatory regime there, wot? I don’t get it.

Universities are not operating a service to the public, any more than internal corporate internets are. Both are in a position to manage network activity as part of assuring their institutional purpose (however different the university one is from the corporate one).

Making an equivalence with regard to FCC regulatory authority seems very weird to me.

And, ahem, recent legislation is going to require universities to take pro-active measures against piracy over their networks in order to obtain Federal funds. Way different regulatory regime there, wot?

]]> By: Jamalystic http://techliberation.com/2008/08/06/game-set-and-match-martin/comment-page-1/#comment-44450 Jamalystic Wed, 06 Aug 2008 21:03:06 +0000 http://techliberation.com/?p=11480#comment-44450 The FCC got it all wrong in this comcast case and i have to agree with your assessment that the whole 'net neutrality cause' has been severely jeopardized!! Mat be we can look back in hindsight and say that was the incident that marks the end of 'net neutrality': The Net Neutrality Fearmongers Are At It Again(http://www.internetevolution.com/author.asp?section_id=556&doc_id=160628&F_src=flftwo) The FCC got it all wrong in this comcast case and i have to agree with your assessment that the whole ‘net neutrality cause’ has been severely jeopardized!! Mat be we can look back in hindsight and say that was the incident that marks the end of ‘net neutrality’: The Net Neutrality Fearmongers Are At It Again(http://www.internetevolution.com/author.asp?section_id=556&doc_id=160628&F_src=flftwo)

]]> By: Jamalystic http://techliberation.com/2008/08/06/game-set-and-match-martin/comment-page-1/#comment-43183 Jamalystic Wed, 06 Aug 2008 20:03:06 +0000 http://techliberation.com/?p=11480#comment-43183 The FCC got it all wrong in this comcast case and i have to agree with your assessment that the whole 'net neutrality cause' has been severely jeopardized!! Mat be we can look back in hindsight and say that was the incident that marks the end of 'net neutrality': The Net Neutrality Fearmongers Are At It Again(http://www.internetevolution.com/author.asp?section_id=556&doc_id=160628&F_src=flftwo) The FCC got it all wrong in this comcast case and i have to agree with your assessment that the whole ‘net neutrality cause’ has been severely jeopardized!! Mat be we can look back in hindsight and say that was the incident that marks the end of ‘net neutrality’: The Net Neutrality Fearmongers Are At It Again(http://www.internetevolution.com/author.asp?section_id=556&doc_id=160628&F_src=flftwo)

]]> By: Gary McGath http://techliberation.com/2008/08/06/game-set-and-match-martin/comment-page-1/#comment-44449 Gary McGath Wed, 06 Aug 2008 19:24:56 +0000 http://techliberation.com/?p=11480#comment-44449 Harold (whom I've known for years and think highly of) does seem uncharacteristically obsessed in this Comcast matter. Harold (whom I’ve known for years and think highly of) does seem uncharacteristically obsessed in this Comcast matter.

]]> By: Gary McGath http://techliberation.com/2008/08/06/game-set-and-match-martin/comment-page-1/#comment-43179 Gary McGath Wed, 06 Aug 2008 18:24:56 +0000 http://techliberation.com/?p=11480#comment-43179 Harold (whom I've known for years and think highly of) does seem uncharacteristically obsessed in this Comcast matter. Harold (whom I’ve known for years and think highly of) does seem uncharacteristically obsessed in this Comcast matter.

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