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]]> By: Towerguy http://techliberation.com/2008/05/28/google-the-nab-and-a-third-way-in-%e2%80%98white-spaces%e2%80%99-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-51605 Towerguy Tue, 03 Jun 2008 03:43:44 +0000 http://techliberation.com/?p=10855#comment-51605 <p>If one also considers the existing low powered television stations (LPTV) in NY, DC and Philly, there is very little "white-space" avaiable - just considering the full service allotments alone does not tell the entire story.</p> If one also considers the existing low powered television stations (LPTV) in NY, DC and Philly, there is very little “white-space” avaiable – just considering the full service allotments alone does not tell the entire story.

]]> By: Towerguy http://techliberation.com/2008/05/28/google-the-nab-and-a-third-way-in-%e2%80%98white-spaces%e2%80%99-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-42111 Towerguy Tue, 03 Jun 2008 02:43:44 +0000 http://techliberation.com/?p=10855#comment-42111 <p>If one also considers the existing low powered television stations (LPTV) in NY, DC and Philly, there is very little "white-space" avaiable - just considering the full service allotments alone does not tell the entire story.</p> If one also considers the existing low powered television stations (LPTV) in NY, DC and Philly, there is very little “white-space” avaiable – just considering the full service allotments alone does not tell the entire story.

]]> By: Ryan Radia http://techliberation.com/2008/05/28/google-the-nab-and-a-third-way-in-%e2%80%98white-spaces%e2%80%99-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-51604 Ryan Radia Mon, 02 Jun 2008 00:34:17 +0000 http://techliberation.com/?p=10855#comment-51604 <p>Drew, excellent overview of the white spaces debate. The trouble with central planning of the spectrum is irresolvable disputes over how to use frequency bands.<br>Letting so much valuable frequency lie fallow to give broadcasters peace of mind is probably not what would happen if a free market existed for spectrum.<br><br>At the last telecoalition meeting, somebody tossed out the idea of a 80/20 allocation. Auction 80 percent of the spectrum with property rights, and leave the remaining 20 percent for unlicensed, open use subject to reasonable restrictions on effective radiated output. Sounds good to me.<br><br>You also make a good point about broadcasters ceasing over-the-air transmissions. Considering how few people actually watch local TV via an antenna, perhaps the 300mhz currently used for TV broadcasts could be put to a better use, one that's valued by a larger number of people.</p> Drew, excellent overview of the white spaces debate. The trouble with central planning of the spectrum is irresolvable disputes over how to use frequency bands.
Letting so much valuable frequency lie fallow to give broadcasters peace of mind is probably not what would happen if a free market existed for spectrum.

At the last telecoalition meeting, somebody tossed out the idea of a 80/20 allocation. Auction 80 percent of the spectrum with property rights, and leave the remaining 20 percent for unlicensed, open use subject to reasonable restrictions on effective radiated output. Sounds good to me.

You also make a good point about broadcasters ceasing over-the-air transmissions. Considering how few people actually watch local TV via an antenna, perhaps the 300mhz currently used for TV broadcasts could be put to a better use, one that’s valued by a larger number of people.

]]> By: Ryan Radia http://techliberation.com/2008/05/28/google-the-nab-and-a-third-way-in-%e2%80%98white-spaces%e2%80%99-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-42099 Ryan Radia Sun, 01 Jun 2008 23:34:17 +0000 http://techliberation.com/?p=10855#comment-42099 <p>Drew, excellent overview of the white spaces debate. The trouble with central planning of the spectrum is irresolvable disputes over how to use frequency bands. Letting so much valuable frequency lie fallow to give broadcasters peace of mind is probably not what would happen if a free market existed for spectrum.</p> <p>At the last telecoalition meeting, somebody tossed out the idea of a 80/20 allocation. Auction 80 percent of the spectrum with property rights, and leave the remaining 20 percent for unlicensed, open use subject to reasonable restrictions on effective radiated output. Sounds good to me.</p> <p>You also make a good point about broadcasters ceasing over-the-air transmissions. Considering how few people actually watch local TV via an antenna, perhaps the 300mhz currently used for TV broadcasts could be put to a better use, one that's valued by a larger number of people.</p> Drew, excellent overview of the white spaces debate. The trouble with central planning of the spectrum is irresolvable disputes over how to use frequency bands. Letting so much valuable frequency lie fallow to give broadcasters peace of mind is probably not what would happen if a free market existed for spectrum.

At the last telecoalition meeting, somebody tossed out the idea of a 80/20 allocation. Auction 80 percent of the spectrum with property rights, and leave the remaining 20 percent for unlicensed, open use subject to reasonable restrictions on effective radiated output. Sounds good to me.

You also make a good point about broadcasters ceasing over-the-air transmissions. Considering how few people actually watch local TV via an antenna, perhaps the 300mhz currently used for TV broadcasts could be put to a better use, one that’s valued by a larger number of people.

]]> By: andyinsdca http://techliberation.com/2008/05/28/google-the-nab-and-a-third-way-in-%e2%80%98white-spaces%e2%80%99-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-51603 andyinsdca Thu, 29 May 2008 15:55:42 +0000 http://techliberation.com/?p=10855#comment-51603 <p>Please lose the crappy background. Black text on grey stripes is IMPOSSIBLE to read.</p> Please lose the crappy background. Black text on grey stripes is IMPOSSIBLE to read.

]]> By: andyinsdca http://techliberation.com/2008/05/28/google-the-nab-and-a-third-way-in-%e2%80%98white-spaces%e2%80%99-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-42078 andyinsdca Thu, 29 May 2008 14:55:42 +0000 http://techliberation.com/?p=10855#comment-42078 <p>Please lose the crappy background. Black text on grey stripes is IMPOSSIBLE to read.</p> Please lose the crappy background. Black text on grey stripes is IMPOSSIBLE to read.

]]> By: Drew Clark http://techliberation.com/2008/05/28/google-the-nab-and-a-third-way-in-%e2%80%98white-spaces%e2%80%99-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-51602 Drew Clark Thu, 29 May 2008 12:22:21 +0000 http://techliberation.com/?p=10855#comment-51602 <p>All,<br><br>I've also posted a sidebar, laying out some of the spectrum numbers, at <a href="http://drewclark.com/spectrum-math">http://drewclark.com/spectrum-math</a></p> All,

I’ve also posted a sidebar, laying out some of the spectrum numbers, at http://drewclark.com/spectrum-math

]]> By: Drew Clark http://techliberation.com/2008/05/28/google-the-nab-and-a-third-way-in-%e2%80%98white-spaces%e2%80%99-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-51601 Drew Clark Thu, 29 May 2008 12:19:43 +0000 http://techliberation.com/?p=10855#comment-51601 <p>Don,<br><br>Exactly. A band manager (including a Cisco/Google/Microsoft) could allow unlicensed transmissions under the terms that it sets for the band that it owns or controls.</p> Don,

Exactly. A band manager (including a Cisco/Google/Microsoft) could allow unlicensed transmissions under the terms that it sets for the band that it owns or controls.

]]> By: Drew Clark http://techliberation.com/2008/05/28/google-the-nab-and-a-third-way-in-%e2%80%98white-spaces%e2%80%99-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-42075 Drew Clark Thu, 29 May 2008 11:22:21 +0000 http://techliberation.com/?p=10855#comment-42075 <p>All,</p> <p>I've also posted a sidebar, laying out some of the spectrum numbers, at http://drewclark.com/spectrum-math</p> All,

I’ve also posted a sidebar, laying out some of the spectrum numbers, at http://drewclark.com/spectrum-math

]]> By: Drew Clark http://techliberation.com/2008/05/28/google-the-nab-and-a-third-way-in-%e2%80%98white-spaces%e2%80%99-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-42074 Drew Clark Thu, 29 May 2008 11:19:43 +0000 http://techliberation.com/?p=10855#comment-42074 <p>Don,</p> <p>Exactly. A band manager (including a Cisco/Google/Microsoft) could allow unlicensed transmissions under the terms that it sets for the band that it owns or controls.</p> Don,

Exactly. A band manager (including a Cisco/Google/Microsoft) could allow unlicensed transmissions under the terms that it sets for the band that it owns or controls.

]]> By: dmarti http://techliberation.com/2008/05/28/google-the-nab-and-a-third-way-in-%e2%80%98white-spaces%e2%80%99-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-51600 dmarti Wed, 28 May 2008 22:37:16 +0000 http://techliberation.com/?p=10855#comment-51600 <p>You don't need to allocate for unlicensed use a whole 50MHz band at a time. Why not allocate a small slice, and if people like it, allocate more? Or a device vendor such as Cisco could put up the seed money for a Dominant Assurance Contract to bid on a spectrum "unlicense."<br><br><a href="http://www.marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2005/05/assurance_contr.html">http://www.marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevol...</a></p> You don’t need to allocate for unlicensed use a whole 50MHz band at a time. Why not allocate a small slice, and if people like it, allocate more? Or a device vendor such as Cisco could put up the seed money for a Dominant Assurance Contract to bid on a spectrum “unlicense.”

http://www.marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevol…

]]> By: Don Marti http://techliberation.com/2008/05/28/google-the-nab-and-a-third-way-in-%e2%80%98white-spaces%e2%80%99-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-42067 Don Marti Wed, 28 May 2008 21:37:16 +0000 http://techliberation.com/?p=10855#comment-42067 <p>You don't need to allocate for unlicensed use a whole 50MHz band at a time. Why not allocate a small slice, and if people like it, allocate more? Or a device vendor such as Cisco could put up the seed money for a Dominant Assurance Contract to bid on a spectrum "unlicense."</p> <p>http://www.marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2005/05/assurance_contr.html</p> You don’t need to allocate for unlicensed use a whole 50MHz band at a time. Why not allocate a small slice, and if people like it, allocate more? Or a device vendor such as Cisco could put up the seed money for a Dominant Assurance Contract to bid on a spectrum “unlicense.”

http://www.marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2005/05/assurance_contr.html

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