Comments on: Do Not Track Registry Likely to Include Exemptions http://techliberation.com/2008/04/25/do-not-track-registry-likely-to-include-exemptions/ Keeping politicians' hands off the Net & everything else related to technology Sat, 20 Mar 2010 14:01:15 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: gr http://techliberation.com/2008/04/25/do-not-track-registry-likely-to-include-exemptions/comment-page-1/#comment-52076 gr Mon, 28 Apr 2008 14:18:52 +0000 http://techliberation.com/2008/04/25/do-not-track-registry-likely-to-include-exemptions/#comment-52076 "I think that asking the government to hold a master list of IPs and consumer names is a bad idea, or at least one that won’t do much to really protect consumers."<br><br>The Do-Not-Track list is unfortunately named, as people are led to believe what you just did: that it tracks consumers. It works more like an offender database: it tracks the advertisers, and then the consumer can just download the list and make the choice to protect themselves. So it is quite what you want to be: an easy way for industry to allow consumers to opt-out.<br><br>I blogged about this when the list was first introduced:<br><br><br><a href="http://infoadvocate.org/blog/2007/11/04/do-not-track-lists-and-registries/">http://infoadvocate.org/blog/2007/11/04/do-not-...</a><br><br>On your cookie idea, if we create a special kind of cookie that anti-spyware doesn't delete, then malware and trackers will start using it. “I think that asking the government to hold a master list of IPs and consumer names is a bad idea, or at least one that won’t do much to really protect consumers.”

The Do-Not-Track list is unfortunately named, as people are led to believe what you just did: that it tracks consumers. It works more like an offender database: it tracks the advertisers, and then the consumer can just download the list and make the choice to protect themselves. So it is quite what you want to be: an easy way for industry to allow consumers to opt-out.

I blogged about this when the list was first introduced:

http://infoadvocate.org/blog/2007/11/04/do-not-...

On your cookie idea, if we create a special kind of cookie that anti-spyware doesn’t delete, then malware and trackers will start using it.

]]> By: gr http://techliberation.com/2008/04/25/do-not-track-registry-likely-to-include-exemptions/comment-page-1/#comment-41386 gr Mon, 28 Apr 2008 13:18:52 +0000 http://techliberation.com/2008/04/25/do-not-track-registry-likely-to-include-exemptions/#comment-41386 "I think that asking the government to hold a master list of IPs and consumer names is a bad idea, or at least one that won’t do much to really protect consumers." The Do-Not-Track list is unfortunately named, as people are led to believe what you just did: that it tracks consumers. It works more like an offender database: it tracks the advertisers, and then the consumer can just download the list and make the choice to protect themselves. So it is quite what you want to be: an easy way for industry to allow consumers to opt-out. I blogged about this when the list was first introduced: http://infoadvocate.org/blog/2007/11/04/do-not-track-lists-and-registries/ On your cookie idea, if we create a special kind of cookie that anti-spyware doesn't delete, then malware and trackers will start using it. “I think that asking the government to hold a master list of IPs and consumer names is a bad idea, or at least one that won’t do much to really protect consumers.”

The Do-Not-Track list is unfortunately named, as people are led to believe what you just did: that it tracks consumers. It works more like an offender database: it tracks the advertisers, and then the consumer can just download the list and make the choice to protect themselves. So it is quite what you want to be: an easy way for industry to allow consumers to opt-out.

I blogged about this when the list was first introduced:

http://infoadvocate.org/blog/2007/11/04/do-not-track-lists-and-registries/

On your cookie idea, if we create a special kind of cookie that anti-spyware doesn’t delete, then malware and trackers will start using it.

]]> By: cordblomquist http://techliberation.com/2008/04/25/do-not-track-registry-likely-to-include-exemptions/comment-page-1/#comment-52075 cordblomquist Sat, 26 Apr 2008 17:20:47 +0000 http://techliberation.com/2008/04/25/do-not-track-registry-likely-to-include-exemptions/#comment-52075 Jeff, sorry if my first paragraph made it sound like you endorsed the plan, which I now you don't. I wanted to state that I empathize with your concerns and that I don't think the list is a good way to address those concerns. So we agree on that front.<br><br>What specifically do you and CDD want to see done on the federal level? The do-not-track list seems flawed, but is there a better solution that can be implemented via federal law? Jeff, sorry if my first paragraph made it sound like you endorsed the plan, which I now you don’t. I wanted to state that I empathize with your concerns and that I don’t think the list is a good way to address those concerns. So we agree on that front.

What specifically do you and CDD want to see done on the federal level? The do-not-track list seems flawed, but is there a better solution that can be implemented via federal law?

]]> By: Cord Blomquist http://techliberation.com/2008/04/25/do-not-track-registry-likely-to-include-exemptions/comment-page-1/#comment-41320 Cord Blomquist Sat, 26 Apr 2008 16:20:47 +0000 http://techliberation.com/2008/04/25/do-not-track-registry-likely-to-include-exemptions/#comment-41320 Jeff, sorry if my first paragraph made it sound like you endorsed the plan, which I now you don't. I wanted to state that I empathize with your concerns and that I don't think the list is a good way to address those concerns. So we agree on that front. What specifically do you and CDD want to see done on the federal level? The do-not-track list seems flawed, but is there a better solution that can be implemented via federal law? Jeff, sorry if my first paragraph made it sound like you endorsed the plan, which I now you don’t. I wanted to state that I empathize with your concerns and that I don’t think the list is a good way to address those concerns. So we agree on that front.

What specifically do you and CDD want to see done on the federal level? The do-not-track list seems flawed, but is there a better solution that can be implemented via federal law?

]]> By: Jeff Chester http://techliberation.com/2008/04/25/do-not-track-registry-likely-to-include-exemptions/comment-page-1/#comment-52074 Jeff Chester Sat, 26 Apr 2008 10:51:47 +0000 http://techliberation.com/2008/04/25/do-not-track-registry-likely-to-include-exemptions/#comment-52074 The Center for Digital Democracy does not support a do-not-track list. We want federal rules that give individuals control over their data--so it can't be readily used by advertisers or government. The commercial surveillance system put in place tracks and analyzes our activities online. It's not a debate about people selling "duvet covers" via digital marketing. It's preventing, if an individual desires, from having a system used by others that includes sensitive information about our lives (health concerns, political interests, etc). At a time when a growing majority, especially young people, are living their lives online, do we want either Big Brother/Big Sister from Washington or Madison Ave. always peering over our (digital) shoulder? The Center for Digital Democracy does not support a do-not-track list. We want federal rules that give individuals control over their data–so it can’t be readily used by advertisers or government. The commercial surveillance system put in place tracks and analyzes our activities online. It’s not a debate about people selling “duvet covers” via digital marketing. It’s preventing, if an individual desires, from having a system used by others that includes sensitive information about our lives (health concerns, political interests, etc). At a time when a growing majority, especially young people, are living their lives online, do we want either Big Brother/Big Sister from Washington or Madison Ave. always peering over our (digital) shoulder?

]]> By: Jeff Chester http://techliberation.com/2008/04/25/do-not-track-registry-likely-to-include-exemptions/comment-page-1/#comment-41318 Jeff Chester Sat, 26 Apr 2008 09:51:47 +0000 http://techliberation.com/2008/04/25/do-not-track-registry-likely-to-include-exemptions/#comment-41318 The Center for Digital Democracy does not support a do-not-track list. We want federal rules that give individuals control over their data--so it can't be readily used by advertisers or government. The commercial surveillance system put in place tracks and analyzes our activities online. It's not a debate about people selling "duvet covers" via digital marketing. It's preventing, if an individual desires, from having a system used by others that includes sensitive information about our lives (health concerns, political interests, etc). At a time when a growing majority, especially young people, are living their lives online, do we want either Big Brother/Big Sister from Washington or Madison Ave. always peering over our (digital) shoulder? The Center for Digital Democracy does not support a do-not-track list. We want federal rules that give individuals control over their data–so it can’t be readily used by advertisers or government. The commercial surveillance system put in place tracks and analyzes our activities online. It’s not a debate about people selling “duvet covers” via digital marketing. It’s preventing, if an individual desires, from having a system used by others that includes sensitive information about our lives (health concerns, political interests, etc). At a time when a growing majority, especially young people, are living their lives online, do we want either Big Brother/Big Sister from Washington or Madison Ave. always peering over our (digital) shoulder?

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