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	<title>Comments on: review of Zittrain&#8217;s &#8220;Future of the Internet&#8221;</title>
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	<description>The real problem is not whether machines think but whether men do.</description>
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		<title>By: Maggie</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2008/03/23/review-of-zittrains-future-of-the-internet/#comment-41833</link>
		<dc:creator>Maggie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 18:14:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for a great tear-down review. I do still intend to read the book, but everything I've read so far (from reviews, book excerpts and from Zittrain's blog and talks) on this subject has left me feeling more than a little frustrated; if not outright irritated.

What you've expressed above touches perfectly on some of the ideas and assertions that bother me the most. Along with the artificially elevated sense of alarm/doom (at least in the language he uses) and, sometimes, plain old hyperbole ('Macs get viruses too' - which is extremely hyperbolic and sensationalist and just there to grab attention) that the whole 'Zittrain manifesto', including to some degree the whole 'badware' thing, still concerns me.

Adding you to my must-read list. :)
Maggie</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for a great tear-down review. I do still intend to read the book, but everything I&#8217;ve read so far (from reviews, book excerpts and from Zittrain&#8217;s blog and talks) on this subject has left me feeling more than a little frustrated; if not outright irritated.</p>
<p>What you&#8217;ve expressed above touches perfectly on some of the ideas and assertions that bother me the most. Along with the artificially elevated sense of alarm/doom (at least in the language he uses) and, sometimes, plain old hyperbole (&#8217;Macs get viruses too&#8217; - which is extremely hyperbolic and sensationalist and just there to grab attention) that the whole &#8216;Zittrain manifesto&#8217;, including to some degree the whole &#8216;badware&#8217; thing, still concerns me.</p>
<p>Adding you to my must-read list. <img src='http://techliberation.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
Maggie</p>
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		<title>By: december</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2008/03/23/review-of-zittrains-future-of-the-internet/#comment-41611</link>
		<dc:creator>december</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 13:02:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, you convinced me to read this book even if his theses may be over-simplified.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, you convinced me to read this book even if his theses may be over-simplified.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam West</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2008/03/23/review-of-zittrains-future-of-the-internet/#comment-41271</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam West</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Apr 2008 14:23:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As for a name for the syndrome where smart people universalize their own preferences (those of their cohort) and declare flaws in markets, technologies, policies, etc. because such system doesn’t satisfy their unique preferences, how about:

Zittyranny?
Zitttrainization?
Zittrainia?
Zittmania?
Zittmegalomania?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As for a name for the syndrome where smart people universalize their own preferences (those of their cohort) and declare flaws in markets, technologies, policies, etc. because such system doesn’t satisfy their unique preferences, how about:</p>
<p>Zittyranny?<br />
Zitttrainization?<br />
Zittrainia?<br />
Zittmania?<br />
Zittmegalomania?</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Bennett</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2008/03/23/review-of-zittrains-future-of-the-internet/#comment-40869</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Bennett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 19:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the review, Adam. I've wanted to read Zittrain's book, but Silicon Valley's public library doesn't consider it important enough to stock. What I've read about it leads me to be suspicious about his premises, but any time a pundit invents new terms to describe what are alleged to be traditional practices, I get nervous. If "network neutrality" were really the cornerstone of the Internet, for example, it wouldn't have been necessary for a law professor to coin the term in 2003. So this "generativity" concept makes me want to grab my wallet.

I think he's trying to give "programmability" a new name, and in doing so misses several vital points. All devices need not be programmable by all users for creativity to find a way into the gizmo arsenal. Code is mainly written by experts, after all, and "closed devices" are open to experimentation by experts with adequate specifications and proprietary APIs. And many of the cherished pieces of the "open Internet" are rarely modified, such as TCP, UDP, and IP. While these elements of the Internet reside on end-user systems, they're so much a part of the Internet's plumbing that nobody alters them in any meaningful way.

There's a design cycle or two that we find in general purpose computers where systems that may begin as software algorithms running on the CPU and controlling add-on hardware are eventually reduced completely to hardware for performance and cost reasons. Ethernet used to be a card you plugged into a computer but it's become part of the basic circuitry of the PC or handheld. Some systems commit TCP to hardware for speed as well. We find a similar cycle in graphics.

Handhelds represent an interesting set of challenges for the designer because of the conflicting demands of battery life, radio quality, size, weight, flexibility, and reliability. It's necessary to reduce system flexibility in these devices to get decent parameters for the rest of the device, and most users understand these trade-offs at some level. It's downright silly to pretend that Blackberries have to be end-user programmable to have any utility.

I doubt that Professor Zittrain has ever programmed a computer. That doesn't disqualify him from pontificating about the benefits of programmability, but it does suggest that his perspective may be a bit skewed and romantic.

These ultra-simple dichotomies the Berkman people like to make are seldom useful in the sense of generating fresh perspectives or real insights.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the review, Adam. I&#8217;ve wanted to read Zittrain&#8217;s book, but Silicon Valley&#8217;s public library doesn&#8217;t consider it important enough to stock. What I&#8217;ve read about it leads me to be suspicious about his premises, but any time a pundit invents new terms to describe what are alleged to be traditional practices, I get nervous. If &#8220;network neutrality&#8221; were really the cornerstone of the Internet, for example, it wouldn&#8217;t have been necessary for a law professor to coin the term in 2003. So this &#8220;generativity&#8221; concept makes me want to grab my wallet.</p>
<p>I think he&#8217;s trying to give &#8220;programmability&#8221; a new name, and in doing so misses several vital points. All devices need not be programmable by all users for creativity to find a way into the gizmo arsenal. Code is mainly written by experts, after all, and &#8220;closed devices&#8221; are open to experimentation by experts with adequate specifications and proprietary APIs. And many of the cherished pieces of the &#8220;open Internet&#8221; are rarely modified, such as TCP, UDP, and IP. While these elements of the Internet reside on end-user systems, they&#8217;re so much a part of the Internet&#8217;s plumbing that nobody alters them in any meaningful way.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a design cycle or two that we find in general purpose computers where systems that may begin as software algorithms running on the CPU and controlling add-on hardware are eventually reduced completely to hardware for performance and cost reasons. Ethernet used to be a card you plugged into a computer but it&#8217;s become part of the basic circuitry of the PC or handheld. Some systems commit TCP to hardware for speed as well. We find a similar cycle in graphics.</p>
<p>Handhelds represent an interesting set of challenges for the designer because of the conflicting demands of battery life, radio quality, size, weight, flexibility, and reliability. It&#8217;s necessary to reduce system flexibility in these devices to get decent parameters for the rest of the device, and most users understand these trade-offs at some level. It&#8217;s downright silly to pretend that Blackberries have to be end-user programmable to have any utility.</p>
<p>I doubt that Professor Zittrain has ever programmed a computer. That doesn&#8217;t disqualify him from pontificating about the benefits of programmability, but it does suggest that his perspective may be a bit skewed and romantic.</p>
<p>These ultra-simple dichotomies the Berkman people like to make are seldom useful in the sense of generating fresh perspectives or real insights.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam Thierer</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2008/03/23/review-of-zittrains-future-of-the-internet/#comment-40868</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam Thierer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 12:55:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Johnathan has responded on his blog &lt;a href="http://people.oii.ox.ac.uk/z/2008/03/24/dichotomies-and-markets/" rel="nofollow"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;. He says:

&lt;blockquote&gt;I don’t mind sterile technologies in principle — I like the idea of taking the rough-hewn innovations that spring from the Internet and packaging them into cleaner, more reliable forms.  I love my TiVo.  (Indeed, that used to be the first sentence of the book. Then I went with the iPhone.) I even appreciate that sterile technologies can come about without having to emulate the products of generative ones — not every toaster comes from nerds experimenting with heating elements.

My worry, though, is that we’ll lose a sense of equilibrium between the generative and sterile spheres, and that the emergence of contingently generative technologies — platforms that are open to third party innovation at first, but then close off selectively — will squeeze out fully generative technologies, to the detriment of innovation and enhancement of exquisite regulatory control. This is in part because the amateur nerds that drive innovation here rarely read the fine print; teenagers will code for the Facebook, iPhone and Google platforms without thinking about the ways in which their advances can be eliminated or proprietized. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Again, I guess I just don't see how all of us would "lose a sense of equilibrium between the generative and sterile spheres," or that "platforms that are open to third party innovation at first" will "close off selectively" and "squeeze out fully generative technologies." Perhaps some will; but I just don't see the entire future of the Internet unfolding in that fashion. The momentum is too great in the direction of open, interactive, generative platforms and devices. Head over to "&lt;a href="http://www.go2web20.net/" rel="nofollow"&gt;Go2Web2.0.net&lt;/a&gt;" and tell me how all that progress is going to be reversed. I just don't see it happening.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Johnathan has responded on his blog <a href="http://people.oii.ox.ac.uk/z/2008/03/24/dichotomies-and-markets/" rel="nofollow">here</a>. He says:</p>
<blockquote><p>I don’t mind sterile technologies in principle — I like the idea of taking the rough-hewn innovations that spring from the Internet and packaging them into cleaner, more reliable forms.  I love my TiVo.  (Indeed, that used to be the first sentence of the book. Then I went with the iPhone.) I even appreciate that sterile technologies can come about without having to emulate the products of generative ones — not every toaster comes from nerds experimenting with heating elements.</p>
<p>My worry, though, is that we’ll lose a sense of equilibrium between the generative and sterile spheres, and that the emergence of contingently generative technologies — platforms that are open to third party innovation at first, but then close off selectively — will squeeze out fully generative technologies, to the detriment of innovation and enhancement of exquisite regulatory control. This is in part because the amateur nerds that drive innovation here rarely read the fine print; teenagers will code for the Facebook, iPhone and Google platforms without thinking about the ways in which their advances can be eliminated or proprietized. </p></blockquote>
<p>Again, I guess I just don&#8217;t see how all of us would &#8220;lose a sense of equilibrium between the generative and sterile spheres,&#8221; or that &#8220;platforms that are open to third party innovation at first&#8221; will &#8220;close off selectively&#8221; and &#8220;squeeze out fully generative technologies.&#8221; Perhaps some will; but I just don&#8217;t see the entire future of the Internet unfolding in that fashion. The momentum is too great in the direction of open, interactive, generative platforms and devices. Head over to &#8220;<a href="http://www.go2web20.net/" rel="nofollow">Go2Web2.0.net</a>&#8221; and tell me how all that progress is going to be reversed. I just don&#8217;t see it happening.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Harper</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2008/03/23/review-of-zittrains-future-of-the-internet/#comment-40867</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Harper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 12:52:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There should be a name for the syndrome where smart people universalize their own preferences (those of their cohort) and declare flaws in markets, technologies, policies, etc. because such system doesn't satisfy their unique preferences.
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