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	<title>Comments on: REAL ID&#8217;s Whirling Dervishes</title>
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		<title>By: Jim Harper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Harper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 21:19:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Gary, the states that haven&#039;t yet filed for an extension are Montana, South Carolina, and Maine. It&#039;s not clear that you understand the rest of the context either, though my last two posts gave it to you.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Most states have accepted an obligation-free extension until December, 2009.  Several of these states have passed statutes refusing to implement REAL ID.  That is not capitulation (though DHS and friends are spinning it as such); it is kicking the can down the road.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The governors in the states I just mentioned are considering forcing a confrontation over REAL ID.  This will not permit the airlines to &quot;go along&quot; because the DHS threatens to turn airline travel from a marginally profitable business to a marginally unprofitable business. Businesses - and airlines in particular - are usually lackeys to politicians because it&#039;s in their economic self-interest, not for sport. When it&#039;s in their economic self-interest to change REAL ID, they&#039;ll be on it.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Now, there&#039;s no guarantee that the governors from these states will hold out and force this confrontation - I have hope, but not illusions.  It will not be magic that brings down REAL ID, but a well-placed judo kick to its teetering edifice.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gary, the states that haven&#8217;t yet filed for an extension are Montana, South Carolina, and Maine. It&#8217;s not clear that you understand the rest of the context either, though my last two posts gave it to you.</p>

<p>Most states have accepted an obligation-free extension until December, 2009.  Several of these states have passed statutes refusing to implement REAL ID.  That is not capitulation (though DHS and friends are spinning it as such); it is kicking the can down the road.</p>

<p>The governors in the states I just mentioned are considering forcing a confrontation over REAL ID.  This will not permit the airlines to &#8220;go along&#8221; because the DHS threatens to turn airline travel from a marginally profitable business to a marginally unprofitable business. Businesses &#8211; and airlines in particular &#8211; are usually lackeys to politicians because it&#8217;s in their economic self-interest, not for sport. When it&#8217;s in their economic self-interest to change REAL ID, they&#8217;ll be on it.</p>

<p>Now, there&#8217;s no guarantee that the governors from these states will hold out and force this confrontation &#8211; I have hope, but not illusions.  It will not be magic that brings down REAL ID, but a well-placed judo kick to its teetering edifice.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Jim Harper</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2008/02/29/real-ids-whirling-dervishes/comment-page-1/#comment-53495</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Harper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 21:19:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Gary, the states that haven&#039;t yet filed for an extension are Montana, South Carolina, and Maine. It&#039;s not clear that you understand the rest of the context either, though my last two posts gave it to you.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Most states have accepted an obligation-free extension until December, 2009.  Several of these states have passed statutes refusing to implement REAL ID.  That is not capitulation (though DHS and friends are spinning it as such); it is kicking the can down the road.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The governors in the states I just mentioned are considering forcing a confrontation over REAL ID.  This will not permit the airlines to &quot;go along&quot; because the DHS threatens to turn airline travel from a marginally profitable business to a marginally unprofitable business. Businesses - and airlines in particular - are usually lackeys to politicians because it&#039;s in their economic self-interest, not for sport. When it&#039;s in their economic self-interest to change REAL ID, they&#039;ll be on it.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Now, there&#039;s no guarantee that the governors from these states will hold out and force this confrontation - I have hope, but not illusions.  It will not be magic that brings down REAL ID, but a well-placed judo kick to its teetering edifice.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gary, the states that haven&#8217;t yet filed for an extension are Montana, South Carolina, and Maine. It&#8217;s not clear that you understand the rest of the context either, though my last two posts gave it to you.<br /><br />Most states have accepted an obligation-free extension until December, 2009.  Several of these states have passed statutes refusing to implement REAL ID.  That is not capitulation (though DHS and friends are spinning it as such); it is kicking the can down the road.<br /><br />The governors in the states I just mentioned are considering forcing a confrontation over REAL ID.  This will not permit the airlines to &#8220;go along&#8221; because the DHS threatens to turn airline travel from a marginally profitable business to a marginally unprofitable business. Businesses &#8211; and airlines in particular &#8211; are usually lackeys to politicians because it&#8217;s in their economic self-interest, not for sport. When it&#8217;s in their economic self-interest to change REAL ID, they&#8217;ll be on it.<br /><br />Now, there&#8217;s no guarantee that the governors from these states will hold out and force this confrontation &#8211; I have hope, but not illusions.  It will not be magic that brings down REAL ID, but a well-placed judo kick to its teetering edifice.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Gary McGath</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2008/02/29/real-ids-whirling-dervishes/comment-page-1/#comment-40720</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary McGath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 13:26:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;As the states all rush to capitulate, you&#039;re still trying to hold onto your illusion that Real ID is going to collapse any moment. New Hampshire, last I checked, is one of the states that hasn&#039;t filed for an extension -- because there was a campaign to tell Governor Lynch not to go ahead with the request he was reputedly drafting.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If the state governments are still intending not to comply in the face of the federal government&#039;s threats, then what is the point of their asking for an extension? Are they just buying time until Real ID magically vanishes?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As the states all rush to capitulate, you&#8217;re still trying to hold onto your illusion that Real ID is going to collapse any moment. New Hampshire, last I checked, is one of the states that hasn&#8217;t filed for an extension &#8212; because there was a campaign to tell Governor Lynch not to go ahead with the request he was reputedly drafting.</p>

<p>If the state governments are still intending not to comply in the face of the federal government&#8217;s threats, then what is the point of their asking for an extension? Are they just buying time until Real ID magically vanishes?</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Gary McGath</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2008/02/29/real-ids-whirling-dervishes/comment-page-1/#comment-53494</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary McGath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 13:26:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;As the states all rush to capitulate, you&#039;re still trying to hold onto your illusion that Real ID is going to collapse any moment. New Hampshire, last I checked, is one of the states that hasn&#039;t filed for an extension -- because there was a campaign to tell Governor Lynch not to go ahead with the request he was reputedly drafting.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If the state governments are still intending not to comply in the face of the federal government&#039;s threats, then what is the point of their asking for an extension? Are they just buying time until Real ID magically vanishes?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As the states all rush to capitulate, you&#8217;re still trying to hold onto your illusion that Real ID is going to collapse any moment. New Hampshire, last I checked, is one of the states that hasn&#8217;t filed for an extension &#8212; because there was a campaign to tell Governor Lynch not to go ahead with the request he was reputedly drafting.<br /><br />If the state governments are still intending not to comply in the face of the federal government&#8217;s threats, then what is the point of their asking for an extension? Are they just buying time until Real ID magically vanishes?</p>]]></content:encoded>
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