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	<title>Comments on: USA Today, age verification, and the death of online anonymity</title>
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		<title>By: Endel</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2008/01/23/usa-today-age-verification-and-the-death-of-online-anonymity/#comment-45832</link>
		<dc:creator>Endel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 11:48:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How big a risk are the online predators? How many children of every million in the social networking sites do fall prey to them during a year?</description>
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		<title>By: Endel</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2008/01/23/usa-today-age-verification-and-the-death-of-online-anonymity/#comment-42343</link>
		<dc:creator>Endel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 10:48:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How big a risk are the online predators? How many children of every million in the social networking sites do fall prey to them during a year?</description>
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		<title>By: Keith_Indy</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2008/01/23/usa-today-age-verification-and-the-death-of-online-anonymity/#comment-40479</link>
		<dc:creator>Keith_Indy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2008 16:48:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Aren’t there better ways to use our resources? How about focusing our time, energy and resources on educating kids about online risks and deal with these concerns in more constructive ways?&lt;/i&gt;

And educate the parents on the risks, and their responsibilities.  Parents are the ones who should be watching their kids, not the government.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Aren’t there better ways to use our resources? How about focusing our time, energy and resources on educating kids about online risks and deal with these concerns in more constructive ways?</i></p>
<p>And educate the parents on the risks, and their responsibilities.  Parents are the ones who should be watching their kids, not the government.</p>
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		<title>By: Keith_Indy</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2008/01/23/usa-today-age-verification-and-the-death-of-online-anonymity/#comment-45831</link>
		<dc:creator>Keith_Indy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2008 16:48:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Aren’t there better ways to use our resources? How about focusing our time, energy and resources on educating kids about online risks and deal with these concerns in more constructive ways?&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And educate the parents on the risks, and their responsibilities.  Parents are the ones who should be watching their kids, not the government.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Aren’t there better ways to use our resources? How about focusing our time, energy and resources on educating kids about online risks and deal with these concerns in more constructive ways?</i></p>
<p>And educate the parents on the risks, and their responsibilities.  Parents are the ones who should be watching their kids, not the government.</p>
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		<title>By: Parry Aftab</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2008/01/23/usa-today-age-verification-and-the-death-of-online-anonymity/#comment-40478</link>
		<dc:creator>Parry Aftab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2008 14:05:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adam:

You and I agree. Age verification on a free general population social network isn't possible for children.

I suspect that is why MySpace suggested a task force on the issue. If all experts agree that it can't be done and still maintain a free, anonymous network, perhaps USA Today-type comments will cease, or at least be taken with a grain of salt.

I devote my life ot this issue. I shut down my law firm to donate my time ot making sure that everyone, especially children, are safer online.

If there were a system that would work for rich and poor children, without having to obtain parental consent (many wouldn't know  how to consent and wouldn't bother, sicne social networking is not a priority), I would be it's biggest proponent. Everytime I appear on the Today Show, Good Morning America, or am quoted somewhere, tech companies contact me with the solution." Mainly these are rehashed versions of old and failed systems, some ignore the law and security, but noe are the answer.

The answer is creating networks designed for kids, that contains kids favrite things ot do, to draw them away from the general audience sites, like MySpace, and into safer environments that have monitors, safeguards and security.

Then we need to make sure that kids look out for each other online, know where to report bad actors, and what to do to protect themselves.

Those are two solutions. Not perfect. But effective.

Best.
Parry Aftab
WiredSafety.org
The Privacy Lawyer


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adam:</p>
<p>You and I agree. Age verification on a free general population social network isn&#8217;t possible for children.</p>
<p>I suspect that is why MySpace suggested a task force on the issue. If all experts agree that it can&#8217;t be done and still maintain a free, anonymous network, perhaps USA Today-type comments will cease, or at least be taken with a grain of salt.</p>
<p>I devote my life ot this issue. I shut down my law firm to donate my time ot making sure that everyone, especially children, are safer online.</p>
<p>If there were a system that would work for rich and poor children, without having to obtain parental consent (many wouldn&#8217;t know  how to consent and wouldn&#8217;t bother, sicne social networking is not a priority), I would be it&#8217;s biggest proponent. Everytime I appear on the Today Show, Good Morning America, or am quoted somewhere, tech companies contact me with the solution.&#8221; Mainly these are rehashed versions of old and failed systems, some ignore the law and security, but noe are the answer.</p>
<p>The answer is creating networks designed for kids, that contains kids favrite things ot do, to draw them away from the general audience sites, like MySpace, and into safer environments that have monitors, safeguards and security.</p>
<p>Then we need to make sure that kids look out for each other online, know where to report bad actors, and what to do to protect themselves.</p>
<p>Those are two solutions. Not perfect. But effective.</p>
<p>Best.<br />
Parry Aftab<br />
WiredSafety.org<br />
The Privacy Lawyer</p>
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		<title>By: Parry Aftab</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2008/01/23/usa-today-age-verification-and-the-death-of-online-anonymity/#comment-45830</link>
		<dc:creator>Parry Aftab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2008 14:05:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adam:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You and I agree. Age verification on a free general population social network isn't possible for children.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I suspect that is why MySpace suggested a task force on the issue. If all experts agree that it can't be done and still maintain a free, anonymous network, perhaps USA Today-type comments will cease, or at least be taken with a grain of salt.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I devote my life ot this issue. I shut down my law firm to donate my time ot making sure that everyone, especially children, are safer online.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If there were a system that would work for rich and poor children, without having to obtain parental consent (many wouldn't know  how to consent and wouldn't bother, sicne social networking is not a priority), I would be it's biggest proponent. Everytime I appear on the Today Show, Good Morning America, or am quoted somewhere, tech companies contact me with the solution." Mainly these are rehashed versions of old and failed systems, some ignore the law and security, but noe are the answer.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The answer is creating networks designed for kids, that contains kids favrite things ot do, to draw them away from the general audience sites, like MySpace, and into safer environments that have monitors, safeguards and security.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Then we need to make sure that kids look out for each other online, know where to report bad actors, and what to do to protect themselves.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Those are two solutions. Not perfect. But effective.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Best.&lt;br&gt;Parry Aftab&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href="http://WiredSafety.org"&gt;WiredSafety.org&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;The Privacy Lawyer</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adam:</p>
<p>You and I agree. Age verification on a free general population social network isn&#8217;t possible for children.</p>
<p>I suspect that is why MySpace suggested a task force on the issue. If all experts agree that it can&#8217;t be done and still maintain a free, anonymous network, perhaps USA Today-type comments will cease, or at least be taken with a grain of salt.</p>
<p>I devote my life ot this issue. I shut down my law firm to donate my time ot making sure that everyone, especially children, are safer online.</p>
<p>If there were a system that would work for rich and poor children, without having to obtain parental consent (many wouldn&#8217;t know  how to consent and wouldn&#8217;t bother, sicne social networking is not a priority), I would be it&#8217;s biggest proponent. Everytime I appear on the Today Show, Good Morning America, or am quoted somewhere, tech companies contact me with the solution.&#8221; Mainly these are rehashed versions of old and failed systems, some ignore the law and security, but noe are the answer.</p>
<p>The answer is creating networks designed for kids, that contains kids favrite things ot do, to draw them away from the general audience sites, like MySpace, and into safer environments that have monitors, safeguards and security.</p>
<p>Then we need to make sure that kids look out for each other online, know where to report bad actors, and what to do to protect themselves.</p>
<p>Those are two solutions. Not perfect. But effective.</p>
<p>Best.<br />Parry Aftab<br /><a href="http://WiredSafety.org">WiredSafety.org</a><br />The Privacy Lawyer</p>
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		<title>By: Steve R.</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2008/01/23/usa-today-age-verification-and-the-death-of-online-anonymity/#comment-40477</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve R.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2008 13:37:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You don't go far enough. In your post ""The End of Censorship" - The Book that I Never Finished" (January 22, 2008) you correctly predicted the trend to &lt;i&gt;“Deputize the Middleman”&lt;/i&gt;. Currently,a hot discussion topic has been the potential use of "filters" by private industry to "protect" content.  The Electronic Frontier Foundation is also reporting &lt;i&gt;"College Opportunity and Affordability Act of 2007, which includes misguided anti-piracy requirements for universities."&lt;/i&gt; Each of these proposals plus similar proposals, if implemented, will force "middleman" to become internet traffic cops. By implication, there would be a &lt;i&gt;"Death of Online Anonymity".&lt;/i&gt; Age Verification is simply one more incremental bullet in the assault on internet anonymity. Of course, this is all being done for our own good to "protect" us.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You don&#8217;t go far enough. In your post &#8220;&#8221;The End of Censorship&#8221; - The Book that I Never Finished&#8221; (January 22, 2008) you correctly predicted the trend to <i>“Deputize the Middleman”</i>. Currently,a hot discussion topic has been the potential use of &#8220;filters&#8221; by private industry to &#8220;protect&#8221; content.  The Electronic Frontier Foundation is also reporting <i>&#8220;College Opportunity and Affordability Act of 2007, which includes misguided anti-piracy requirements for universities.&#8221;</i> Each of these proposals plus similar proposals, if implemented, will force &#8220;middleman&#8221; to become internet traffic cops. By implication, there would be a <i>&#8220;Death of Online Anonymity&#8221;.</i> Age Verification is simply one more incremental bullet in the assault on internet anonymity. Of course, this is all being done for our own good to &#8220;protect&#8221; us.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve R.</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2008/01/23/usa-today-age-verification-and-the-death-of-online-anonymity/#comment-45829</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve R.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2008 13:37:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You don't go far enough. In your post ""The End of Censorship" - The Book that I Never Finished" (January 22, 2008) you correctly predicted the trend to &lt;i&gt;“Deputize the Middleman”&lt;/i&gt;. Currently,a hot discussion topic has been the potential use of "filters" by private industry to "protect" content.  The Electronic Frontier Foundation is also reporting &lt;i&gt;"College Opportunity and Affordability Act of 2007, which includes misguided anti-piracy requirements for universities."&lt;/i&gt; Each of these proposals plus similar proposals, if implemented, will force "middleman" to become internet traffic cops. By implication, there would be a &lt;i&gt;"Death of Online Anonymity".&lt;/i&gt; Age Verification is simply one more incremental bullet in the assault on internet anonymity. Of course, this is all being done for our own good to "protect" us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You don&#8217;t go far enough. In your post &#8220;&#8221;The End of Censorship&#8221; - The Book that I Never Finished&#8221; (January 22, 2008) you correctly predicted the trend to <i>“Deputize the Middleman”</i>. Currently,a hot discussion topic has been the potential use of &#8220;filters&#8221; by private industry to &#8220;protect&#8221; content.  The Electronic Frontier Foundation is also reporting <i>&#8220;College Opportunity and Affordability Act of 2007, which includes misguided anti-piracy requirements for universities.&#8221;</i> Each of these proposals plus similar proposals, if implemented, will force &#8220;middleman&#8221; to become internet traffic cops. By implication, there would be a <i>&#8220;Death of Online Anonymity&#8221;.</i> Age Verification is simply one more incremental bullet in the assault on internet anonymity. Of course, this is all being done for our own good to &#8220;protect&#8221; us.</p>
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