What if a Googlebomb is a Googledud?

by on December 29, 2007 · 16 comments

The crumbs laid out for me by my feeds this morning have lead me to the brewing showdown between Daily Kos and Jonah Goldberg. Goldberg’s new book Liberal Fascism is certainly provocatively titled. The cover is no less a tweak. Goldberg talks about it with “Glenn and Helen” here.

Kos’ Thomas Kalinowski proposes a Googlebomb on the title of the book, sending searchers to a criticism of it. All well and good – except that it’s not as fair as letting criticisms of the book rise on their merits. And here’s a problem: Google has taken steps to defuse the Googlebombing technique.

I also saw a Danny Glover post this morning speculating on the declining traffic of the Daily Kos blog. Interestingly, Glover saw the talk of Kos’ decline on National Review Online, a home of none other than Jonah Goldberg.

All very incestuous, and part of the rollerball-politics that doesn’t interest me terribly much. Whatever the case, Goldberg is getting a lot of pre-release awareness for his book which, Googlebomb or Googledud, defeats his opponents’ aims.

Watch the success or failure of the “Liberal Fascism” Googlebomb here.

  • SDHornEsq

    Doesn’t the fact that Kos is trying this tactic prove the thesis of liberal fascism?

  • SDHornEsq

    Doesn’t the fact that Kos is trying this tactic prove the thesis of liberal fascism?

  • http://jimtreacher.com Jim Treacher

    “How dare he call us fascists. Let’s crush his dissent!”

  • http://jimtreacher.com Jim Treacher

    “How dare he call us fascists. Let’s crush his dissent!”

  • TomH

    I’d just like to point out that http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/12/28/8744/9666 is just a diary (not official Kos) and it only got 11 comments. Hardly anyone had a chance to read it before it scrolled off and it was posted at 7:32 AM my time. I’ve spent some time there because the format is interesting but it’s dying quickly because they have too many trusted users troll rating posters. That’s why the site is in trouble IMHO. My last account lasted about 6 hours, heh.
    Anyway, Go Fred.

  • TomH

    I’d just like to point out that http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/12/28/8744/9666 is just a diary (not official Kos) and it only got 11 comments. Hardly anyone had a chance to read it before it scrolled off and it was posted at 7:32 AM my time. I’ve spent some time there because the format is interesting but it’s dying quickly because they have too many trusted users troll rating posters. That’s why the site is in trouble IMHO. My last account lasted about 6 hours, heh.
    Anyway, Go Fred.

  • http://tieguy.org/blog/ Luis

    Just FWIW, the googlebombing ‘fix’ that google performed only stops some types of googlebombs- those that use a phrase that doesn’t appear in the page, like ‘abysmal failure’ pointing at a Bush biography. For pages like a critique of Liberal Fascism (which presumably would contain the phrase ‘Liberal Fascism’) it could work, presuming that more people linked to the critique page than to the real book.

  • http://tieguy.org/blog/ Luis

    Just FWIW, the googlebombing ‘fix’ that google performed only stops some types of googlebombs- those that use a phrase that doesn’t appear in the page, like ‘abysmal failure’ pointing at a Bush biography. For pages like a critique of Liberal Fascism (which presumably would contain the phrase ‘Liberal Fascism’) it could work, presuming that more people linked to the critique page than to the real book.

  • http://www.onlinediscountmart.com Johann

    Exactly, Luis.

    The whitehouse site dropped because it does not contain those phrases. When the whitehouse did but miserable and/or failure on that page (from a press conference, I believe) it went to #1 immediately. So this bomb would be successful, if the words were on the page.

  • http://www.onlinediscountmart.com Johann

    Exactly, Luis.

    The whitehouse site dropped because it does not contain those phrases. When the whitehouse did but miserable and/or failure on that page (from a press conference, I believe) it went to #1 immediately. So this bomb would be successful, if the words were on the page.

  • http://enigmafoundry.wordpress.com eee_eff

    Goldberg’s new book Liberal Fascism is certainly provocatively titled.

    Yes, since it obviously inverts what any fair-minded person would observe to be true. It’s just trolling, really.

    Reality exists in the human mind, and nowhere else. Not in the individual mind, which can make mistakes, and in any case soon perishes: only in the mind of the Party, which is collective and immortal. Whatever the Party holds to be the truth, is truth. It is impossible to see reality except by looking through the eyes of the Party. That is the fact that you have got to relearn, Winston.

  • http://enigmafoundry.wordpress.com/ enigma_foundry

    Goldberg’s new book Liberal Fascism is certainly provocatively titled.

    Yes, since it obviously inverts what any fair-minded person would observe to be true. It’s just trolling, really.

    Reality exists in the human mind, and nowhere else. Not in the individual mind, which can make mistakes, and in any case soon perishes: only in the mind of the Party, which is collective and immortal. Whatever the Party holds to be the truth, is truth. It is impossible to see reality except by looking through the eyes of the Party. That is the fact that you have got to relearn, Winston.

  • http://jonswift.blogspot.com/2007/06/jonah-goldbergs-shining.html Jon Swift

    I’m afraid you have an inaccuracy in your piece. The “Googlebomb” you refer to, which I do not in any way endorse, goes to my piece which actually praises the idea for Liberal Fascism, which had not come out at the time the piece was written, and even offered Jonah Goldberg help in writing it by harnessing the power of the Internet. Although Mr. Goldberg did not take me up on my very generous offer of help, the results of my experiment may were quite successful and may give future authors ideas for how they, too, can use the Internet to help them write their books. Your readers can click on my name for a link to my piece or copy and paste it from below and judge for themselves:
    http://jonswift.blogspot.com/2007/06/jonah-gold

  • http://jonswift.blogspot.com/2007/06/jonah-goldbergs-shining.html Jon Swift

    I’m afraid you have an inaccuracy in your piece. The “Googlebomb” you refer to, which I do not in any way endorse, goes to my piece which actually praises the idea for Liberal Fascism, which had not come out at the time the piece was written, and even offered Jonah Goldberg help in writing it by harnessing the power of the Internet. Although Mr. Goldberg did not take me up on my very generous offer of help, the results of my experiment may were quite successful and may give future authors ideas for how they, too, can use the Internet to help them write their books. Your readers can click on my name for a link to my piece or copy and paste it from below and judge for themselves:
    http://jonswift.blogspot.com/2007/06/jonah-goldbergs-shining.html

  • http://jonswift.blogspot.com/2007/06/jonah-goldbergs-shining.html Jon Swift

    Well, that’s one way to succeed, I suppose. My piece has been completely removed from Google search results. Congratulations on your success at suppressing one blogger’s point of view.
    http://jonswift.blogspot.com/2007/06/jonah-gold

  • http://jonswift.blogspot.com/2007/06/jonah-goldbergs-shining.html Jon Swift

    Well, that’s one way to succeed, I suppose. My piece has been completely removed from Google search results. Congratulations on your success at suppressing one blogger’s point of view.
    http://jonswift.blogspot.com/2007/06/jonah-goldbergs-shining.html

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