Network Neutrality Just-So Stories

by Tim Lee on April 6, 2007 · Comments

Julian has some more smart things to say about network neutrality and the Pizza Hut analogy:

Suppose an ISP wants to build out infrastructure to support 100mbps service in an area that doesn’t currently have it. Problem: There are customers who might like that higher speed access for a few purposes, like streaming movies, but not enough who are prepared to pay the premium to upgrade their whole connection, so it’s not cost effective for the ISP to make the investment. One solution might be metering: You let customers pay for the bandwidth they use, paying a bit more for bursts of higher speed needed to access specific sites with a lower flat rate for the majority of the time, when they’re just reading news and checking email. The problem is that consumers seem to have largely rejected metering: People want to pay one rate for their access, and not have to think about their usage level on a day-to-day basis.

The other solution is for the sites the customers are trying to reach, the ones that many people will only find worth using if they connect at very high speeds, to subsidize the infrastructure buildup, then recoup the layout in the form of increased revenue from subscription fees or ads or however else sites convince investors they’ll make a buck. Of course, that only makes sense if the infrastructure buildup doesn’t just result in cheaper and faster across-the-board access for the customers of the ISP in question; the benefits have to be internalized by the company making the payment. Now, in terms of how this was originally framed, once the infrastructure is there, that means “slowing down” any traffic not coming from the favored (paying) companies to lower speeds than the new and improved pipes can accommodate. But in the case I’ve described, of course, that’s not zero sum because the fatter pipes are only there due to the cross-subsidy from the favored companies. This would be more intuitively clear if, say, the companies had subsidized the construction of a physically distinct set of fatter pipes that only carried their traffic—except that’s sort of insane and inefficient, and nobody’s actually going to build a network that way.

This is a just-so story, of course: I’ve described a way that preferential access involving “slowing down” some packets and passing others along at full speed might be optimal. That doesn’t show it’s the most likely use of policy routing. On the other hand, some folks seem incapable of imagining any beneficial use, so it may be worth at least gesturing in the direction of one. And it matters because if there were only downsides to a discriminatory net, then even if the horror-hypotheticals or actual abuses were highly implausible in the first case or highly uncommon in the latter, there would be no harm in regulating. If there are pros and cons, it won’t do to just point out what kinds of bad things might happen. You need to figure out how serious and common they’re going to be relative to the beneficial cases.

I’m skeptical about Julian’s just-so story for reasons I’ve elaborated on before, but his broader point is clearly right: If you want to evaluate the case for banning certain routing policies, you need to look at both sides of the ledger. And to do this meaningfully, you not only have to identify what could happen but also how likely each outcome is. So far, each side has seemed to insist that its worst-case scenario is inevitable if the other side gets its way.

Comments Posted in: Broadband & Neutrality Regulation

  • As for there being no minor infringements of the First Amendment, there's a difference between censorship by the state and censorship by private companies. Censorship by private companies certainly isn't a good thing, but it's far less troubling than censorship by the state because no one company has anything close to a monopoly on the dissemination of ideas. Even if Telus could have blocked all website critical of its actions, it couldn't have blocked newspapers, television channels, radio stations, magazines, etc. Only the state has the power to engage in blanket censorship, which is why censorship by the state deserves closer scrutiny.

    Enigma, I discussed the Telus incident here. As I said then:

    Canada isn’t exactly a police state. If they were able to get a Canadian court to order it be taken down, I think it’s safe to assume this was not a run-of-the-mill political website. Telus may actually have had good reasons for taking the site down.


    I have yet to see any details about the basis on which they received the court order, but I think it's silly to assume this was a case of Telus simply trying to silence critics.

    And frankly, North America is a big place. The fact that there was only one incident of censorship on a continent with half a billion people in it over a period of several years suggests to me that the actual threat to free speech is extremely small.
  • Well, Tim, you've really never responded to the reality of the telus case, or AOL's content-based censoring of emails and there is no such thing as a minor infringement of the First Amendment.

    So, never having described how you would prevent content based filtering from EVER happening, and having listed several incidents where it did in fact occur when net neutrality was not operating, I will vote for net neutrality.
  • Enigma, no one seriously believes that telcos will have either the ability or the motivation to engage in significant viewpoint-based censorship. I've discussed this in detail before, so I won't rehash it all here.
  • Freedom of the press belongs to those who own one, enigma, and we don't have a right to own one without paying for it.

    And what would I be apologizing for, pray tell?
  • I’m skeptical about Julian’s just-so story for reasons I’ve elaborated on before, but his broader point is clearly right: If you want to evaluate the case for banning certain routing policies, you need to look at both sides of the ledger. And to do this meaningfully, you not only have to identify what could happen but also how likely each outcome is.

    Yes, I am skeptical also. However, my perspective is to look at the most fundamental values, such as freedom of speech which are threatened. I happen to place freedom of speech and other rights of the individual found in the bill of rights in a preferential place, and I also believe that those rights in the First Amendment are in a prefered position vis a vis other rights.

    Thus, the fact that some companies have already discriminated against website based on what is being said, (rather than just how many bits are used to say it) very alarming.

    Thus, once someone starts using their control of the network to control what is being said, a big red flag goes up, and I am uninterested in any other arguments for or against network neutrality that do not adress what I see as a primary concern.

    So, Tim how do you address this concern?

    Saying it is not a concern does not address it.

    In other words, how would you prevent someone from supressing freedom of speech?

    Oh, and Richard Bennett don't you think you owe me an apology?
  • Tim refers to his previous blog post on the Economics of Prioritization, and essentially compounds the previous error. Let me try and explain.

    Networking costs in Local Area Networks are all in the electronics in end-user computers and local switches, once wiring is deployed. These things can typically be upgraded to higher and higher speeds without laying new cables. Hence, in this scenarion electronics are expensive but bandwidth is free. Hence, it makes more sense to solve traffic problems by simply bumping up the speed, and that's why we use Ethernet instead of more controlled technologies on LANs.

    On Wide Area Networks the economics are different because bandwidth costs money. OC192 costs more than OC48 to lease each month, over and above access equipment. Hence, there's a need for technologies that employ QoS to manage bandwidth between contending uses and users.

    QoS skeptics, like Tim, employ the economics of local area networks on wide area networks and come to wrong conclusions.

    The "Just-So" scenario in Julian's article is reasonable and nobody should be "skeptical" about it. Somebody has to pay for upgrades to Wide Area Networks, and in a fair and just economy most of that cost should be borne by heavy users.
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  • Mark Seecof

    One reason (not the only one) we Americans like flat-rate pricing is our experiences getting ripped off by carriers who claim their unreadable terms for metered-rate service authorize outrageous surprise bills.

    Who among us has not gotten a much- larger- than- expected bill from a telco? When we investigate, we often find either errors (e.g., charges for services not actually consumed, or charges at the wrong rate) or deliberate "traps" (e.g., excess-airtime charges because "base minutes" were debited for "SMS messages received," even though no one ever mentioned (nor would any customer ever guess) that receiving SMS messages from others-- including unwanted junk mail from the carrier itself-- would consume "base minutes").

    Of course "errors" are always in favor of the carrier, and almost always result from deliberate action (or willful negligence) by the carrier, as proved by the way they constantly recur. The "traps" are also deliberate; carriers constantly adjust their terms of service to set new traps (and prevent comparison shopping).

    Ahem. One of the "services" carriers bundle into their flat rates is simply a reduction in the hassle of scrutinizing and disputing the carrier's frequently-incorrect metered-rate bills. With flat-rate service, it's easier to spot the carrier's so-called errors and simpler to dispute them.

  • Charles
    I would contend that the rejection of metered bandwidth is a cultural consequence. Metered bandwidth is accepted if not common place in Canada (at least it was in Quebec in 2005, the last time I had an internet connection there). Having been in the US for almost 2 years now, I see this "one-price-for-infinite-service" mentality a bit everywhere. Be it in the size of the portions (go to a movie cinema and you can get a popcorn that's pretty much infinite), the numerous ads for service bundling (one price for cable, phone, internet, ...), unlimited cell phone plans seem to be more used here (we have those in Canada, but people still buy metered plans in large part). It just hits me that US americans, in large part, value the convenience of not having to estimate their consumption to compare offers at a much higher price than other cultures. Can't say where it stems from, but it just seems to be. It would probably require a major ad campaign for an isp to make metered bandwidth appealing to the market here.
  • I don't understand why people reject metered bandwidth, provided the cost is reasonable. We're not talking $5/GB here, but more like $0.10-$0.25/GB after a base price of say, 10GB for $15 a month. Downloading 100GB of content would only hit customers at the cost of $15 + ($10 to $25) in such a scenario, but it would specifically target people who utilize the network the most. What would be interesting is to see how the average user would react to this. I bet if it were more bluntly put before them, the average Internet user would start to change their views.
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