Wu on YouTube’s Safe Harbor

by on March 26, 2007 · 6 comments

Based on my reading of the complaint, Tim Wu’s speculation on Viacom’s strategy seems about right:

Viacom seem to be preparing to argue that, since Youtube plays such a role in hosting the videos, and doing things like screening porn, the videos are not, in fact “user-directed content,” the hosting of which is protected by 17 U.S.C. 512(c). The main challenge for that argument is the text of 512(c), which protects “user-directed content” or “the storage at the direction of a user of material that resides on a system or network controlled or operated by or for the service provider.”

That sounds like Youtube, since as the name suggests, Youtube stores content at the direction of a user. However, no one knows whether little steps, like making thumbnails, or screening sometimes and sometimes not, or offering search services, might take Youtube out of 512(c)’s protection. The strongest argument that YouTube is not covered depends on the text. The idea is that Youtube is going beyond “storage” of videos, and is in fact that active agent here, not the user. That reading of 512(c) leaves most Web 2.0 sites with alot less coverage than they may have though they had — that is, all sites other than naked web hosting sites. Facebook, Flickr, Myspace — all of these sites do more than just “store” information . Are they covered by 512(c)? Stay tuned.

It seems to me that the courts would be wading into a legal swamp if they bought this argument, because it’s hard to see how you’d draw a principled distinction between what YouTube does and what a lot of modern web hosts do. Most modern web hosts provide a variety of useful software layered on top of the basic web-hosting service. Many of those facilities (blogs, photo galleries, video- and audio-hosting services, etc) could be used to infringe copyright.

If the courts rule that YouTube is liable for infringement because its software isn’t passive enough, then the courts will have two unappetizing choices. One is to argue that any service that offers more than bare web-hosting functionality is ineligible for safe harbor protections. This could conceivably cause web hosts to stop offering easy-to-install software. The even worse option would be to craft some rule about which kinds of data manipulation voids protection under 512(c). Given the pace at which web services are evolving, it’s hard to imagine them crafting a rule that won’t look anachronistic in five years.

It seems to me that a stronger argument would be to focus on YouTube’s advertising revenue. That would at least offer the courts a bright-line distinction: companies that are paid directly by customers to host content are eligible for the safe harbor, but companies that offer free advertising-supported hosting services have to police the content on their sites. That isn’t an outcome I particularly relish, but at least it’s clear, and it does have some basis in statute.

  • http://bennett.com/blog Richard Bennett

    Legal experts tell me the safe harbor provision of the DMCA was intended to immunize web hosting services and ISPs from liability for the actions of their customers. It’s easy to understand why they would want to do this, from both a business and a practical enforcement point of view.

    The company that hosts my domain, for example, hosts hundreds, if not thousands, of domains, a mixture of regular web sites, blogs, and all sorts of other things. The company has no idea what’s on these sites, doesn’t index them, doesn’t direct traffic to them, and is generally neutral toward their content. As as these domains are all constructed out of different technologies, it would be hard in practice for them to know what’s on them.

    A hosting service is obviously quite different from a web site. Each web site has a premise of some sort, and only allows content of a certain nature. It’s under the control of its owner in several different respects, and generally has an index and may carry ads or have some other non-subscription revenue model.

    YouTube is clearly more like a typical web site than a hosting server. While it does accept user-generated and user-stolen content, it indexes the content and places ads alongside it to generate revenue.

    If I wanted to find any Daily Show clips on the domains hosted by my hosting server, I’d be hard-pressed to do it as I’d have to know all the domain names and how to search them. Finding Daily Show clips on YouTube is a snap: I just type “Daily Show” in the YouTube search box and the system gives me a list.

    It seems clear to my experts that there’s a major and obvious difference between what a hosting service is doing and what YouTube is doing.

    Now one may want to quibble about how well the law captures the intent of its authors, and for that we can certainly involve legal scholars. But as to the intent of the DMCA, well, one would have to be purposefully obtuse not to see how it applies to this case.

  • http://bennett.com/blog Richard Bennett

    Legal experts tell me the safe harbor provision of the DMCA was intended to immunize web hosting services and ISPs from liability for the actions of their customers. It’s easy to understand why they would want to do this, from both a business and a practical enforcement point of view.

    The company that hosts my domain, for example, hosts hundreds, if not thousands, of domains, a mixture of regular web sites, blogs, and all sorts of other things. The company has no idea what’s on these sites, doesn’t index them, doesn’t direct traffic to them, and is generally neutral toward their content. As as these domains are all constructed out of different technologies, it would be hard in practice for them to know what’s on them.

    A hosting service is obviously quite different from a web site. Each web site has a premise of some sort, and only allows content of a certain nature. It’s under the control of its owner in several different respects, and generally has an index and may carry ads or have some other non-subscription revenue model.

    YouTube is clearly more like a typical web site than a hosting server. While it does accept user-generated and user-stolen content, it indexes the content and places ads alongside it to generate revenue.

    If I wanted to find any Daily Show clips on the domains hosted by my hosting server, I’d be hard-pressed to do it as I’d have to know all the domain names and how to search them. Finding Daily Show clips on YouTube is a snap: I just type “Daily Show” in the YouTube search box and the system gives me a list.

    It seems clear to my experts that there’s a major and obvious difference between what a hosting service is doing and what YouTube is doing.

    Now one may want to quibble about how well the law captures the intent of its authors, and for that we can certainly involve legal scholars. But as to the intent of the DMCA, well, one would have to be purposefully obtuse not to see how it applies to this case.

  • Doug Lay

    Pshaw on Richard. Quotes from anonymous “experts”, by a guy who hates Google. Just an unpaid cog in the Old Media PR machine, he is.

  • Doug Lay

    Pshaw on Richard. Quotes from anonymous “experts”, by a guy who hates Google. Just an unpaid cog in the Old Media PR machine, he is.

  • Anne O’Nymous

    My web host does provide a search facility covering all his customers, a DNS server and a Vhost lookup table.

    I’m not sure how a legal distinction can be made between “Show me example.com” and “Show me Daily Show”. (But I could be wrong.)

    Given this standard, I think the only “safe” service provider would be hosts where customers provide their own server hardware and the internal network is all hubs with no switches.

  • Anne O’Nymous

    My web host does provide a search facility covering all his customers, a DNS server and a Vhost lookup table.

    I’m not sure how a legal distinction can be made between “Show me example.com” and “Show me Daily Show”.
    (But I could be wrong.)

    Given this standard, I think the only “safe” service provider would be hosts where customers provide their own server hardware and the internal network is all hubs with no switches.

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