Comments on: Cartefone for wireless? http://techliberation.com/2007/02/12/cartefone-for-wireless/ The Technology Liberation Front is the tech policy blog dedicated to keeping politicians' hands off the 'net and everything else related to technology. Fri, 21 Nov 2008 06:10:52 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: David Sickmiller http://techliberation.com/2007/02/12/cartefone-for-wireless/#comment-49929 David Sickmiller Mon, 21 May 2007 03:57:50 +0000 http://techliberation.com/2007/02/12/cartefone-for-wireless/#comment-49929 You wrote: "You can always buy an unlocked phone for a premium."<br><br>If Tim Wu's paper is correct, most of the major wireless carriers will not let you use that unlocked phone on their networks. You wrote: “You can always buy an unlocked phone for a premium.”

If Tim Wu’s paper is correct, most of the major wireless carriers will not let you use that unlocked phone on their networks.

]]> By: David Sickmiller http://techliberation.com/2007/02/12/cartefone-for-wireless/#comment-37129 David Sickmiller Mon, 21 May 2007 02:57:50 +0000 http://techliberation.com/2007/02/12/cartefone-for-wireless/#comment-37129 You wrote: "You can always buy an unlocked phone for a premium." If Tim Wu's paper is correct, most of the major wireless carriers will not let you use that unlocked phone on their networks. You wrote: “You can always buy an unlocked phone for a premium.”

If Tim Wu’s paper is correct, most of the major wireless carriers will not let you use that unlocked phone on their networks.

]]> By: fprefect http://techliberation.com/2007/02/12/cartefone-for-wireless/#comment-37128 fprefect Tue, 13 Feb 2007 15:58:21 +0000 http://techliberation.com/2007/02/12/cartefone-for-wireless/#comment-37128 It's true that in Europe phones are generally more expensive, but I would say this is canceled out by the fact that plans are better than what you get in the US (and you're not stuck in a contract either.) Also, you can get cutting-edge phones in Europe long before their US release, because the manufacturers aren't dependent on getting a contract with one carrier or another to have their phones sold (and of course, phones aren't locked down either.) It’s true that in Europe phones are generally more expensive, but I would say this is canceled out by the fact that plans are better than what you get in the US (and you’re not stuck in a contract either.) Also, you can get cutting-edge phones in Europe long before their US release, because the manufacturers aren’t dependent on getting a contract with one carrier or another to have their phones sold (and of course, phones aren’t locked down either.)

]]> By: fprefect http://techliberation.com/2007/02/12/cartefone-for-wireless/#comment-49928 fprefect Tue, 13 Feb 2007 15:58:21 +0000 http://techliberation.com/2007/02/12/cartefone-for-wireless/#comment-49928 It's true that in Europe phones are generally more expensive, but I would say this is canceled out by the fact that plans are better than what you get in the US (and you're not stuck in a contract either.) Also, you can get cutting-edge phones in Europe long before their US release, because the manufacturers aren't dependent on getting a contract with one carrier or another to have their phones sold (and of course, phones aren't locked down either.) It’s true that in Europe phones are generally more expensive, but I would say this is canceled out by the fact that plans are better than what you get in the US (and you’re not stuck in a contract either.) Also, you can get cutting-edge phones in Europe long before their US release, because the manufacturers aren’t dependent on getting a contract with one carrier or another to have their phones sold (and of course, phones aren’t locked down either.)

]]> By: Richard Bennett http://techliberation.com/2007/02/12/cartefone-for-wireless/#comment-37127 Richard Bennett Tue, 13 Feb 2007 01:30:26 +0000 http://techliberation.com/2007/02/12/cartefone-for-wireless/#comment-37127 It's official: Tim Wu is a communist. Seriously, however, the net neutrality activists who over-sold their cause so egregiously in the last session of Congress seem to feel compelled to over-sell the over-sold fears by taking it into areas where they don't have a shred of a case. The "Save The Internet" coalition funded by Google (by way of Moveon) is now demanding free broadband for everybody, and here we have Prof. Wu, who actually should know better, taking on the highly-competitive cell phone market. I suppose this indicates that it's even easier to commit adultery the second time. It’s official: Tim Wu is a communist.

Seriously, however, the net neutrality activists who over-sold their cause so egregiously in the last session of Congress seem to feel compelled to over-sell the over-sold fears by taking it into areas where they don’t have a shred of a case. The “Save The Internet” coalition funded by Google (by way of Moveon) is now demanding free broadband for everybody, and here we have Prof. Wu, who actually should know better, taking on the highly-competitive cell phone market.

I suppose this indicates that it’s even easier to commit adultery the second time.

]]> By: Richard Bennett http://techliberation.com/2007/02/12/cartefone-for-wireless/#comment-49927 Richard Bennett Tue, 13 Feb 2007 01:30:26 +0000 http://techliberation.com/2007/02/12/cartefone-for-wireless/#comment-49927 It's official: Tim Wu is a communist.<br><br>Seriously, however, the net neutrality activists who over-sold their cause so egregiously in the last session of Congress seem to feel compelled to over-sell the over-sold fears by taking it into areas where they don't have a shred of a case. The "Save The Internet" coalition funded by Google (by way of Moveon) is now demanding free broadband for everybody, and here we have Prof. Wu, who actually should know better, taking on the highly-competitive cell phone market.<br><br>I suppose this indicates that it's even easier to commit adultery the second time. It’s official: Tim Wu is a communist.

Seriously, however, the net neutrality activists who over-sold their cause so egregiously in the last session of Congress seem to feel compelled to over-sell the over-sold fears by taking it into areas where they don’t have a shred of a case. The “Save The Internet” coalition funded by Google (by way of Moveon) is now demanding free broadband for everybody, and here we have Prof. Wu, who actually should know better, taking on the highly-competitive cell phone market.

I suppose this indicates that it’s even easier to commit adultery the second time.

]]> By: Jamie http://techliberation.com/2007/02/12/cartefone-for-wireless/#comment-37126 Jamie Mon, 12 Feb 2007 21:45:26 +0000 http://techliberation.com/2007/02/12/cartefone-for-wireless/#comment-37126 I live in New Zealand, and we've only really got 2 cellular networks - Vodafone and Telecom NZ. The prices we pay aren't going to rival landlines, but they're not too bad either.<br /> <br /> I'm using a Vodafone "You Choose" plan. This gives me 20 anytime minutes per month for $NZ 19.95. I can then bolt on additional packages, such as off-peak minutes and text messaging, for an additional fee per month.<br /> <br /> See the following sites for cellular pricing:<br /> <a href="http://www.vodafone.co.nz/pricing_plans/our_plans.jsp" rel="nofollow">Vodafone</a><br /> <a href="http://www.telecom.co.nz/content/0,8748,201309-201933,00.html" rel="nofollow">Telecom NZ</a><br /> <br /> Note: $NZ 1.00 is roughly $US 0.70 at the moment. I live in New Zealand, and we’ve only really got 2 cellular networks - Vodafone and Telecom NZ. The prices we pay aren’t going to rival landlines, but they’re not too bad either.

I’m using a Vodafone “You Choose” plan. This gives me 20 anytime minutes per month for $NZ 19.95. I can then bolt on additional packages, such as off-peak minutes and text messaging, for an additional fee per month.

See the following sites for cellular pricing:
Vodafone
Telecom NZ

Note: $NZ 1.00 is roughly $US 0.70 at the moment.

]]> By: Jamie http://techliberation.com/2007/02/12/cartefone-for-wireless/#comment-49926 Jamie Mon, 12 Feb 2007 21:45:26 +0000 http://techliberation.com/2007/02/12/cartefone-for-wireless/#comment-49926 I live in New Zealand, and we've only really got 2 cellular networks - Vodafone and Telecom NZ. The prices we pay aren't going to rival landlines, but they're not too bad either.<br><br></br><br><br>I'm using a Vodafone "You Choose" plan. This gives me 20 anytime minutes per month for $NZ 19.95. I can then bolt on additional packages, such as off-peak minutes and text messaging, for an additional fee per month.</br><br><br></br><br><br>See the following sites for cellular pricing:</br><br><br><a href="http://www.vodafone.co.nz/pricing_plans/our_plans.jsp" rel="nofollow">Vodafone</a></br><br><br><a href="http://www.telecom.co.nz/content/0,8748,201309-201933,00.html" rel="nofollow">Telecom NZ</a></br><br><br></br><br><br>Note: $NZ 1.00 is roughly $US 0.70 at the moment.<br></br> I live in New Zealand, and we’ve only really got 2 cellular networks - Vodafone and Telecom NZ. The prices we pay aren’t going to rival landlines, but they’re not too bad either.

I’m using a Vodafone “You Choose” plan. This gives me 20 anytime minutes per month for $NZ 19.95. I can then bolt on additional packages, such as off-peak minutes and text messaging, for an additional fee per month.

See the following sites for cellular pricing:

Vodafone

Telecom NZ

Note: $NZ 1.00 is roughly $US 0.70 at the moment.

]]> By: Tim Wu http://techliberation.com/2007/02/12/cartefone-for-wireless/#comment-37125 Tim Wu Mon, 12 Feb 2007 16:05:04 +0000 http://techliberation.com/2007/02/12/cartefone-for-wireless/#comment-37125 Thanks for the shout-out -- but the presentation is on Wednesday, not tomorrow! tw Thanks for the shout-out — but the presentation is on Wednesday, not tomorrow!

tw

]]> By: Tim Wu http://techliberation.com/2007/02/12/cartefone-for-wireless/#comment-49925 Tim Wu Mon, 12 Feb 2007 16:05:04 +0000 http://techliberation.com/2007/02/12/cartefone-for-wireless/#comment-49925 Thanks for the shout-out -- but the presentation is on Wednesday, not tomorrow!<br><br>tw Thanks for the shout-out — but the presentation is on Wednesday, not tomorrow!

tw

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