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		<title>By: Noel Le</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2006/11/01/math-you-cant-use/comment-page-1/#comment-35766</link>
		<dc:creator>Noel Le</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Nov 2006 21:38:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;BK, your position is consistent with Brookings fellow Ken Dam&#039;s position on patents- that poor administration of patents can offset the economic justificatons for them. Dam had a special concern for software patents, although he agreed with the statutory subject matter holding of State Street.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;We&#039;re probably not that far apart on patents. Unqualified support for them on the part of fanatics gives the rest of us who like quality patents a bad name.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Hmmm. So you don&#039;t like patents for pure algorithms. Do you distniquish between software and business patents at all then.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BK, your position is consistent with Brookings fellow Ken Dam&#8217;s position on patents- that poor administration of patents can offset the economic justificatons for them. Dam had a special concern for software patents, although he agreed with the statutory subject matter holding of State Street.</p>

<p>We&#8217;re probably not that far apart on patents. Unqualified support for them on the part of fanatics gives the rest of us who like quality patents a bad name.</p>

<p>Hmmm. So you don&#8217;t like patents for pure algorithms. Do you distniquish between software and business patents at all then.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Noel Le</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2006/11/01/math-you-cant-use/comment-page-1/#comment-51957</link>
		<dc:creator>Noel Le</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Nov 2006 21:38:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;BK, your position is consistent with Brookings fellow Ken Dam&#039;s position on patents- that poor administration of patents can offset the economic justificatons for them. Dam had a special concern for software patents, although he agreed with the statutory subject matter holding of State Street.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;We&#039;re probably not that far apart on patents. Unqualified support for them on the part of fanatics gives the rest of us who like quality patents a bad name.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Hmmm. So you don&#039;t like patents for pure algorithms. Do you distniquish between software and business patents at all then.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BK, your position is consistent with Brookings fellow Ken Dam&#8217;s position on patents- that poor administration of patents can offset the economic justificatons for them. Dam had a special concern for software patents, although he agreed with the statutory subject matter holding of State Street.<br /><br />We&#8217;re probably not that far apart on patents. Unqualified support for them on the part of fanatics gives the rest of us who like quality patents a bad name.<br /><br />Hmmm. So you don&#8217;t like patents for pure algorithms. Do you distniquish between software and business patents at all then.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: BK</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2006/11/01/math-you-cant-use/comment-page-1/#comment-35765</link>
		<dc:creator>BK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Nov 2006 20:14:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Just to clarify, Brookings, as an institution, has no position on anything. It&#039;s just an amalgamation of people who all have their own thoughts. I&#039;m delighted to say that nobody has ever even hinted that I should modify my own position to be in line with Brookings, AEI, or their donors.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;

Also, the book is not just published by the BI Press: I&#039;ve been a Guest Scholar at the BI for about three years now, and am writing this from here on the eight floor of Brooking&#039;s main building. So I am very much in touch with the guys at the AEI, and have had many a conversation with some of them.&lt;p&gt;

Nor do I feel that I&#039;m crazily out of line with them. It would be false to say that I&#039;m anti-IP or anti-patent. The book takes pains to point out that patents, applied correctly, can be a good thing and can foster innovation. It also argues that patents are very inappropriate for informational inventions like software, business methods, or storylines. If you asked anybody else here or at the AEI, I expect that they would all offer a similar pragmatic optimism about IP law: it is a basically good idea, but the implementation is never obvious.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to clarify, Brookings, as an institution, has no position on anything. It&#8217;s just an amalgamation of people who all have their own thoughts. I&#8217;m delighted to say that nobody has ever even hinted that I should modify my own position to be in line with Brookings, AEI, or their donors.</p>

<p>

Also, the book is not just published by the BI Press: I&#8217;ve been a Guest Scholar at the BI for about three years now, and am writing this from here on the eight floor of Brooking&#8217;s main building. So I am very much in touch with the guys at the AEI, and have had many a conversation with some of them.</p><p>

Nor do I feel that I&#8217;m crazily out of line with them. It would be false to say that I&#8217;m anti-IP or anti-patent. The book takes pains to point out that patents, applied correctly, can be a good thing and can foster innovation. It also argues that patents are very inappropriate for informational inventions like software, business methods, or storylines. If you asked anybody else here or at the AEI, I expect that they would all offer a similar pragmatic optimism about IP law: it is a basically good idea, but the implementation is never obvious.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: BK</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2006/11/01/math-you-cant-use/comment-page-1/#comment-51956</link>
		<dc:creator>BK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Nov 2006 20:14:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Just to clarify, Brookings, as an institution, has no position on anything. It&#039;s just an amalgamation of people who all have their own thoughts. I&#039;m delighted to say that nobody has ever even hinted that I should modify my own position to be in line with Brookings, AEI, or their donors.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Also, the book is not just published by the BI Press: I&#039;ve been a Guest Scholar at the BI for about three years now, and am writing this from here on the eight floor of Brooking&#039;s main building. So I am very much in touch with the guys at the AEI, and have had many a conversation with some of them.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Nor do I feel that I&#039;m crazily out of line with them. It would be false to say that I&#039;m anti-IP or anti-patent. The book takes pains to point out that patents, applied correctly, can be a good thing and can foster innovation. It also argues that patents are very inappropriate for informational inventions like software, business methods, or storylines. If you asked anybody else here or at the AEI, I expect that they would all offer a similar pragmatic optimism about IP law: it is a basically good idea, but the implementation is never obvious.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to clarify, Brookings, as an institution, has no position on anything. It&#8217;s just an amalgamation of people who all have their own thoughts. I&#8217;m delighted to say that nobody has ever even hinted that I should modify my own position to be in line with Brookings, AEI, or their donors.</p>

<p><br /><br />Also, the book is not just published by the BI Press: I&#8217;ve been a Guest Scholar at the BI for about three years now, and am writing this from here on the eight floor of Brooking&#8217;s main building. So I am very much in touch with the guys at the AEI, and have had many a conversation with some of them.</p>

<p><br /><br />Nor do I feel that I&#8217;m crazily out of line with them. It would be false to say that I&#8217;m anti-IP or anti-patent. The book takes pains to point out that patents, applied correctly, can be a good thing and can foster innovation. It also argues that patents are very inappropriate for informational inventions like software, business methods, or storylines. If you asked anybody else here or at the AEI, I expect that they would all offer a similar pragmatic optimism about IP law: it is a basically good idea, but the implementation is never obvious.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Noel Le</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2006/11/01/math-you-cant-use/comment-page-1/#comment-35764</link>
		<dc:creator>Noel Le</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Nov 2006 14:54:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Oh, Charles, look up Professor Jacqueline Lipton, who recently did an article on why patents are more suitable for software than coprights. I don&#039;t remember the title of the article offhand...&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, Charles, look up Professor Jacqueline Lipton, who recently did an article on why patents are more suitable for software than coprights. I don&#8217;t remember the title of the article offhand&#8230;</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Noel Le</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2006/11/01/math-you-cant-use/comment-page-1/#comment-51955</link>
		<dc:creator>Noel Le</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Nov 2006 14:54:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Oh, Charles, look up Professor Jacqueline Lipton, who recently did an article on why patents are more suitable for software than coprights. I don&#039;t remember the title of the article offhand...&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, Charles, look up Professor Jacqueline Lipton, who recently did an article on why patents are more suitable for software than coprights. I don&#8217;t remember the title of the article offhand&#8230;</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Han</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2006/11/01/math-you-cant-use/comment-page-1/#comment-35763</link>
		<dc:creator>Han</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Nov 2006 06:08:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Noel:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I gather that you&#039;re not a programmer, nor have you written any code before.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Noel:</p>

<p>I gather that you&#8217;re not a programmer, nor have you written any code before.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Han</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2006/11/01/math-you-cant-use/comment-page-1/#comment-51954</link>
		<dc:creator>Han</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Nov 2006 06:08:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Noel:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I gather that you&#039;re not a programmer, nor have you written any code before.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Noel:<br /><br />I gather that you&#8217;re not a programmer, nor have you written any code before.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Charles Kiyanda</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2006/11/01/math-you-cant-use/comment-page-1/#comment-35762</link>
		<dc:creator>Charles Kiyanda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Nov 2006 02:51:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I read the entire review and I liked this passage:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&quot;He also talks about how one could write up a symbol table to translate any given program into lambda calculus expressions, which are pure math by any definition of the term. If pure math isn&#039;t patentable, and a program can be translated into a pure mathematical expression, then where does the program get off being patentable?&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It sort of struck me that (as pointed out at the end of the review) copyright should be much more suited to code than patents. I&#039;m obviously not the first one to think about this and was wondering if many people agree with that position?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read the entire review and I liked this passage:</p>

<p>&#8220;He also talks about how one could write up a symbol table to translate any given program into lambda calculus expressions, which are pure math by any definition of the term. If pure math isn&#8217;t patentable, and a program can be translated into a pure mathematical expression, then where does the program get off being patentable?&#8221;</p>

<p>It sort of struck me that (as pointed out at the end of the review) copyright should be much more suited to code than patents. I&#8217;m obviously not the first one to think about this and was wondering if many people agree with that position?</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Charles Kiyanda</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2006/11/01/math-you-cant-use/comment-page-1/#comment-51953</link>
		<dc:creator>Charles Kiyanda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Nov 2006 02:51:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I read the entire review and I liked this passage:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;He also talks about how one could write up a symbol table to translate any given program into lambda calculus expressions, which are pure math by any definition of the term. If pure math isn&#039;t patentable, and a program can be translated into a pure mathematical expression, then where does the program get off being patentable?&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It sort of struck me that (as pointed out at the end of the review) copyright should be much more suited to code than patents. I&#039;m obviously not the first one to think about this and was wondering if many people agree with that position?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read the entire review and I liked this passage:<br /><br />&#8220;He also talks about how one could write up a symbol table to translate any given program into lambda calculus expressions, which are pure math by any definition of the term. If pure math isn&#8217;t patentable, and a program can be translated into a pure mathematical expression, then where does the program get off being patentable?&#8221;<br /><br />It sort of struck me that (as pointed out at the end of the review) copyright should be much more suited to code than patents. I&#8217;m obviously not the first one to think about this and was wondering if many people agree with that position?</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Noel Le</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2006/11/01/math-you-cant-use/comment-page-1/#comment-35761</link>
		<dc:creator>Noel Le</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Nov 2006 02:50:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;That the book should not be taken to represent Brooking`s IPR positions.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That the book should not be taken to represent Brooking`s IPR positions.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Noel Le</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2006/11/01/math-you-cant-use/comment-page-1/#comment-51952</link>
		<dc:creator>Noel Le</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Nov 2006 02:50:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;That the book should not be taken to represent Brooking`s IPR positions.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That the book should not be taken to represent Brooking`s IPR positions.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Noel Le</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2006/11/01/math-you-cant-use/comment-page-1/#comment-35760</link>
		<dc:creator>Noel Le</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Nov 2006 23:01:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m surprised the book is released through Brookings Press. Perhaps Brookings didn&#039;t check with its exmployees at the AEI-Brookings Center, who actually specialize in IP policy.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m surprised the book is released through Brookings Press. Perhaps Brookings didn&#8217;t check with its exmployees at the AEI-Brookings Center, who actually specialize in IP policy.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Noel Le</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2006/11/01/math-you-cant-use/comment-page-1/#comment-51951</link>
		<dc:creator>Noel Le</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Nov 2006 23:01:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m surprised the book is released through Brookings Press. Perhaps Brookings didn&#039;t check with its exmployees at the AEI-Brookings Center, who actually specialize in IP policy.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m surprised the book is released through Brookings Press. Perhaps Brookings didn&#8217;t check with its exmployees at the AEI-Brookings Center, who actually specialize in IP policy.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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