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		<title>By: eee_eff</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2006/08/14/schneier-on-security-theater/comment-page-1/#comment-55509</link>
		<dc:creator>eee_eff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Aug 2006 01:35:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;In contrast, it&#039;s not clear to me how blowing up an airplane with 100 people on it is inherently more disruptive than a series of car crashes that kill 100 people. Obviously, it&#039;ll get more media coverage and cause more people to panic, but if that&#039;s what makes terrorist attacks worse, isn&#039;t that an argument for downplaying the terrorist threat whenever we can?&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Network disruption.  If a network can be disrupted often enough, it becomes useless.  The economy is constructed of many networks, overlaid and interdependent.  These networks strive to an efficient scale-free topology, under normal and stable market conditions.  Those same-scale free networks, because of their very efficiency (part of the efficiency is being not very redundant.), are susceptible to disruption by a planned attack strategy.  The optimal network for resisting attack has been shown to be clique and delegation based.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The goal of those who are planning these attacks is network disruption, not symbolic terrorism.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/TechReports/UCAM-CL-TR-637.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The topology of covert conflict&lt;br&gt;Shishir Nagaraja, Ross Anderson&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>In contrast, it&#8217;s not clear to me how blowing up an airplane with 100 people on it is inherently more disruptive than a series of car crashes that kill 100 people. Obviously, it&#8217;ll get more media coverage and cause more people to panic, but if that&#8217;s what makes terrorist attacks worse, isn&#8217;t that an argument for downplaying the terrorist threat whenever we can?</i><br /><br />Network disruption.  If a network can be disrupted often enough, it becomes useless.  The economy is constructed of many networks, overlaid and interdependent.  These networks strive to an efficient scale-free topology, under normal and stable market conditions.  Those same-scale free networks, because of their very efficiency (part of the efficiency is being not very redundant.), are susceptible to disruption by a planned attack strategy.  The optimal network for resisting attack has been shown to be clique and delegation based.<br /><br />The goal of those who are planning these attacks is network disruption, not symbolic terrorism.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/TechReports/UCAM-CL-TR-637.html" rel="nofollow">The topology of covert conflict<br />Shishir Nagaraja, Ross Anderson</a></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: enigma_foundry</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2006/08/14/schneier-on-security-theater/comment-page-1/#comment-34497</link>
		<dc:creator>enigma_foundry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Aug 2006 00:35:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;In contrast, it&#039;s not clear to me how blowing up an airplane with 100 people on it is inherently more disruptive than a series of car crashes that kill 100 people. Obviously, it&#039;ll get more media coverage and cause more people to panic, but if that&#039;s what makes terrorist attacks worse, isn&#039;t that an argument for downplaying the terrorist threat whenever we can?&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Network disruption.  If a network can be disrupted often enough, it becomes useless.  The economy is constructed of many networks, overlaid and interdependent.  These networks strive to an efficient scale-free topology, under normal and stable market conditions.  Those same-scale free networks, because of their very efficiency (part of the efficiency is being not very redundant.), are susceptible to disruption by a planned attack strategy.  The optimal network for resisting attack has been shown to be clique and delegation based.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The goal of those who are planning these attacks is network disruption, not symbolic terrorism.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/TechReports/UCAM-CL-TR-637.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The topology of covert conflict
Shishir Nagaraja, Ross Anderson&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>In contrast, it&#8217;s not clear to me how blowing up an airplane with 100 people on it is inherently more disruptive than a series of car crashes that kill 100 people. Obviously, it&#8217;ll get more media coverage and cause more people to panic, but if that&#8217;s what makes terrorist attacks worse, isn&#8217;t that an argument for downplaying the terrorist threat whenever we can?</i></p>

<p>Network disruption.  If a network can be disrupted often enough, it becomes useless.  The economy is constructed of many networks, overlaid and interdependent.  These networks strive to an efficient scale-free topology, under normal and stable market conditions.  Those same-scale free networks, because of their very efficiency (part of the efficiency is being not very redundant.), are susceptible to disruption by a planned attack strategy.  The optimal network for resisting attack has been shown to be clique and delegation based.</p>

<p>The goal of those who are planning these attacks is network disruption, not symbolic terrorism.</p>

<p><a href="http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/TechReports/UCAM-CL-TR-637.html" rel="nofollow">The topology of covert conflict
Shishir Nagaraja, Ross Anderson</a></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Matt Roth-Cline</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2006/08/14/schneier-on-security-theater/comment-page-1/#comment-55508</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Roth-Cline</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Aug 2006 19:54:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thanks for the reply, Tim. I still think that focusing exclusively on the body count -- even if we restrict ourselves to taking about &quot;normal&quot; people as opposed to prominent ones -- is oversimplifying things. Among other problems, it ignores the damage that terrorist attacks do to the physical and cultural infrastructures of liberal societies.&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;ve updated my post with a more complete response. Here&#039;s the link again:&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://weblog.roth-cline.net/archives/2006/08/more_than_meets_the_eye.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://weblog.roth-cline.net/archives/2006/08/more_than_meets_the_eye.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><br />Thanks for the reply, Tim. I still think that focusing exclusively on the body count &#8212; even if we restrict ourselves to taking about &#8220;normal&#8221; people as opposed to prominent ones &#8212; is oversimplifying things. Among other problems, it ignores the damage that terrorist attacks do to the physical and cultural infrastructures of liberal societies.<br /></p>

<p><br /></p>

<p><br />I&#8217;ve updated my post with a more complete response. Here&#8217;s the link again:<br /></p>

<p><br /><a href="http://weblog.roth-cline.net/archives/2006/08/more_than_meets_the_eye.html" rel="nofollow">http://weblog.roth-cline.net/archives/2006/08/more_than_meets_the_eye.html</a></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Matt Roth-Cline</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2006/08/14/schneier-on-security-theater/comment-page-1/#comment-34496</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Roth-Cline</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Aug 2006 18:54:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;
Thanks for the reply, Tim. I still think that focusing exclusively on the body count -- even if we restrict ourselves to taking about &quot;normal&quot; people as opposed to prominent ones -- is oversimplifying things. Among other problems, it ignores the damage that terrorist attacks do to the physical and cultural infrastructures of liberal societies.
&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;
I&#039;ve updated my post with a more complete response. Here&#039;s the link again:
&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://weblog.roth-cline.net/archives/2006/08/more_than_meets_the_eye.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://weblog.roth-cline.net/archives/2006/08/more_than_meets_the_eye.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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Thanks for the reply, Tim. I still think that focusing exclusively on the body count &#8212; even if we restrict ourselves to taking about &#8220;normal&#8221; people as opposed to prominent ones &#8212; is oversimplifying things. Among other problems, it ignores the damage that terrorist attacks do to the physical and cultural infrastructures of liberal societies.
</p>

<p>
I&#8217;ve updated my post with a more complete response. Here&#8217;s the link again:
</p>

<p><a href="http://weblog.roth-cline.net/archives/2006/08/more_than_meets_the_eye.html" rel="nofollow">http://weblog.roth-cline.net/archives/2006/08/more_than_meets_the_eye.html</a></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2006/08/14/schneier-on-security-theater/comment-page-1/#comment-55507</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Aug 2006 05:18:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;OK, I&#039;ll buy the idea that the body count by itself doesn&#039;t accurately measure how bad a given threat is. But the Kennedy assassination was bad because the president is an especially important person in our society, and hence killing him disrupts the smooth operation of our government. In contrast, it&#039;s not clear to me how blowing up an airplane with 100 people on it is inherently more disruptive than a series of car crashes that kill 100 people. Obviously, it&#039;ll get more media coverage and cause more people to panic, but if &lt;i&gt;that&#039;s&lt;/i&gt; what makes terrorist attacks worse, isn&#039;t that an argument for downplaying the terrorist threat whenever we can?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, I&#8217;ll buy the idea that the body count by itself doesn&#8217;t accurately measure how bad a given threat is. But the Kennedy assassination was bad because the president is an especially important person in our society, and hence killing him disrupts the smooth operation of our government. In contrast, it&#8217;s not clear to me how blowing up an airplane with 100 people on it is inherently more disruptive than a series of car crashes that kill 100 people. Obviously, it&#8217;ll get more media coverage and cause more people to panic, but if <i>that&#8217;s</i> what makes terrorist attacks worse, isn&#8217;t that an argument for downplaying the terrorist threat whenever we can?</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Matt Roth-Cline</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2006/08/14/schneier-on-security-theater/comment-page-1/#comment-55506</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Roth-Cline</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Aug 2006 04:39:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;Tim, this argument is appealing at first glance, but I think it&#039;s oversimplifying things. The social impact of a terrorist attack can&#039;t just be boiled down to a body count; there are more contextual factors at work.&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;ve replied to this post on my site:&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://weblog.roth-cline.net/archives/2006/08/more_than_meets_the_eye.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://weblog.roth-cline.net/archives/2006/08/more_than_meets_the_eye.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><br />Tim, this argument is appealing at first glance, but I think it&#8217;s oversimplifying things. The social impact of a terrorist attack can&#8217;t just be boiled down to a body count; there are more contextual factors at work.<br /></p>

<p><br /></p>

<p><br />I&#8217;ve replied to this post on my site:<br /></p>

<p><br /><a href="http://weblog.roth-cline.net/archives/2006/08/more_than_meets_the_eye.html" rel="nofollow">http://weblog.roth-cline.net/archives/2006/08/more_than_meets_the_eye.html</a></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2006/08/14/schneier-on-security-theater/comment-page-1/#comment-34495</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Aug 2006 04:18:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;OK, I&#039;ll buy the idea that the body count by itself doesn&#039;t accurately measure how bad a given threat is. But the Kennedy assassination was bad because the president is an especially important person in our society, and hence killing him disrupts the smooth operation of our government. In contrast, it&#039;s not clear to me how blowing up an airplane with 100 people on it is inherently more disruptive than a series of car crashes that kill 100 people. Obviously, it&#039;ll get more media coverage and cause more people to panic, but if &lt;i&gt;that&#039;s&lt;/i&gt; what makes terrorist attacks worse, isn&#039;t that an argument for downplaying the terrorist threat whenever we can?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, I&#8217;ll buy the idea that the body count by itself doesn&#8217;t accurately measure how bad a given threat is. But the Kennedy assassination was bad because the president is an especially important person in our society, and hence killing him disrupts the smooth operation of our government. In contrast, it&#8217;s not clear to me how blowing up an airplane with 100 people on it is inherently more disruptive than a series of car crashes that kill 100 people. Obviously, it&#8217;ll get more media coverage and cause more people to panic, but if <i>that&#8217;s</i> what makes terrorist attacks worse, isn&#8217;t that an argument for downplaying the terrorist threat whenever we can?</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Matt Roth-Cline</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2006/08/14/schneier-on-security-theater/comment-page-1/#comment-34494</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Roth-Cline</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Aug 2006 03:39:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;
Tim, this argument is appealing at first glance, but I think it&#039;s oversimplifying things. The social impact of a terrorist attack can&#039;t just be boiled down to a body count; there are more contextual factors at work.
&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;
I&#039;ve replied to this post on my site:
&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://weblog.roth-cline.net/archives/2006/08/more_than_meets_the_eye.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://weblog.roth-cline.net/archives/2006/08/more_than_meets_the_eye.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>
Tim, this argument is appealing at first glance, but I think it&#8217;s oversimplifying things. The social impact of a terrorist attack can&#8217;t just be boiled down to a body count; there are more contextual factors at work.
</p>

<p>
I&#8217;ve replied to this post on my site:
</p>

<p><a href="http://weblog.roth-cline.net/archives/2006/08/more_than_meets_the_eye.html" rel="nofollow">http://weblog.roth-cline.net/archives/2006/08/more_than_meets_the_eye.html</a></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: eee_eff</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2006/08/14/schneier-on-security-theater/comment-page-1/#comment-55505</link>
		<dc:creator>eee_eff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Aug 2006 03:05:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I agree whole heartedly with the general thrust of this post, but there is one item I would like to add.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It is very true as the the Cato paper states,&lt;i&gt;It should be kept in mind that September 11 continues to stand out as an extreme event.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;However, there exists the possibility that another type of extreme event, utilizing biological weapons, could top, by a large order of magnetude, what happened on 9/11.  What is most frustrating is that the threats being planned for now are generally the ones that can&#039;t be controlled (bomb in shopping mall, for example, or in luggage at airport) and would be a blip in terms of the deaths say from road accidents, or infections acquired in hospitals, for example.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;However, despite the fact that a biological attack could occur, and it alone (with the exception, say of a lose nuke) could increase by an order of magnitude what occurred on 9/11, almost nothing is being done by the current administration to deal with this threat.  Coupled with the dramatic rise in infectious diseases anyway (diseases have historically been transferred from other species to humans at the rate of about one every century, but now, due to a variety of factors, are transmitted at the rate of about one a year) and there are other reasons to begin to build a public health infrastructure.&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thus, a very credible case could be made for increasing public health expenditures, esp. those targeting disease surveillance and public health in general.  But almost no progress on these programs is being made by the current administration, primarily because it is afraid, I suppose of &#039;socializing medicine&#039;  It&#039;s called being ideologically hamstrung, and unless a dose of pragmatism enters into this debate, many more lives than necessary will be lost to emerging (or re-emerging) infectious diseases.&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;We&#039;ve actually been very lucky. If for example SARS had an incubation period of just one day longer, current models have predicted it would likely have not been controlled.&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree whole heartedly with the general thrust of this post, but there is one item I would like to add.<br /><br />It is very true as the the Cato paper states,<i>It should be kept in mind that September 11 continues to stand out as an extreme event.</i><br /></p>

<p><br />However, there exists the possibility that another type of extreme event, utilizing biological weapons, could top, by a large order of magnetude, what happened on 9/11.  What is most frustrating is that the threats being planned for now are generally the ones that can&#8217;t be controlled (bomb in shopping mall, for example, or in luggage at airport) and would be a blip in terms of the deaths say from road accidents, or infections acquired in hospitals, for example.<br /><br />However, despite the fact that a biological attack could occur, and it alone (with the exception, say of a lose nuke) could increase by an order of magnitude what occurred on 9/11, almost nothing is being done by the current administration to deal with this threat.  Coupled with the dramatic rise in infectious diseases anyway (diseases have historically been transferred from other species to humans at the rate of about one every century, but now, due to a variety of factors, are transmitted at the rate of about one a year) and there are other reasons to begin to build a public health infrastructure.<br /></p>

<p><br />Thus, a very credible case could be made for increasing public health expenditures, esp. those targeting disease surveillance and public health in general.  But almost no progress on these programs is being made by the current administration, primarily because it is afraid, I suppose of &#8216;socializing medicine&#8217;  It&#8217;s called being ideologically hamstrung, and unless a dose of pragmatism enters into this debate, many more lives than necessary will be lost to emerging (or re-emerging) infectious diseases.<br /></p>

<p><br />We&#8217;ve actually been very lucky. If for example SARS had an incubation period of just one day longer, current models have predicted it would likely have not been controlled.<br /></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: enigma_foundry</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2006/08/14/schneier-on-security-theater/comment-page-1/#comment-34493</link>
		<dc:creator>enigma_foundry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Aug 2006 02:05:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I agree whole heartedly with the general thrust of this post, but there is one item I would like to add.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It is very true as the the Cato paper states,&lt;i&gt;It should be kept in mind that September 11 continues to stand out as an extreme event.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;
However, there exists the possibility that another type of extreme event, utilizing biological weapons, could top, by a large order of magnetude, what happened on 9/11.  What is most frustrating is that the threats being planned for now are generally the ones that can&#039;t be controlled (bomb in shopping mall, for example, or in luggage at airport) and would be a blip in terms of the deaths say from road accidents, or infections acquired in hospitals, for example.

However, despite the fact that a biological attack could occur, and it alone (with the exception, say of a lose nuke) could increase by an order of magnitude what occurred on 9/11, almost nothing is being done by the current administration to deal with this threat.  Coupled with the dramatic rise in infectious diseases anyway (diseases have historically been transferred from other species to humans at the rate of about one every century, but now, due to a variety of factors, are transmitted at the rate of about one a year) and there are other reasons to begin to build a public health infrastructure.
&lt;p&gt;
Thus, a very credible case could be made for increasing public health expenditures, esp. those targeting disease surveillance and public health in general.  But almost no progress on these programs is being made by the current administration, primarily because it is afraid, I suppose of &#039;socializing medicine&#039;  It&#039;s called being ideologically hamstrung, and unless a dose of pragmatism enters into this debate, many more lives than necessary will be lost to emerging (or re-emerging) infectious diseases.
&lt;p&gt;
We&#039;ve actually been very lucky. If for example SARS had an incubation period of just one day longer, current models have predicted it would likely have not been controlled.
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree whole heartedly with the general thrust of this post, but there is one item I would like to add.</p>

<p>It is very true as the the Cato paper states,<i>It should be kept in mind that September 11 continues to stand out as an extreme event.</i></p>

<p>
However, there exists the possibility that another type of extreme event, utilizing biological weapons, could top, by a large order of magnetude, what happened on 9/11.  What is most frustrating is that the threats being planned for now are generally the ones that can&#8217;t be controlled (bomb in shopping mall, for example, or in luggage at airport) and would be a blip in terms of the deaths say from road accidents, or infections acquired in hospitals, for example.

However, despite the fact that a biological attack could occur, and it alone (with the exception, say of a lose nuke) could increase by an order of magnitude what occurred on 9/11, almost nothing is being done by the current administration to deal with this threat.  Coupled with the dramatic rise in infectious diseases anyway (diseases have historically been transferred from other species to humans at the rate of about one every century, but now, due to a variety of factors, are transmitted at the rate of about one a year) and there are other reasons to begin to build a public health infrastructure.
</p><p>
Thus, a very credible case could be made for increasing public health expenditures, esp. those targeting disease surveillance and public health in general.  But almost no progress on these programs is being made by the current administration, primarily because it is afraid, I suppose of &#8216;socializing medicine&#8217;  It&#8217;s called being ideologically hamstrung, and unless a dose of pragmatism enters into this debate, many more lives than necessary will be lost to emerging (or re-emerging) infectious diseases.
</p><p>
We&#8217;ve actually been very lucky. If for example SARS had an incubation period of just one day longer, current models have predicted it would likely have not been controlled.
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		<title>By: MikeT</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2006/08/14/schneier-on-security-theater/comment-page-1/#comment-55504</link>
		<dc:creator>MikeT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Aug 2006 14:40:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;As I have said... They will strip us naked, shave our heads (might have piano wire in our hair or something like that), ban all luggage--period, strap us to plexiglass plates with handcuffs so that they can see us at every angle, withour legs spread open for on-demand cavity searches...&lt;/p&gt;

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&lt;p&gt;And then they will still allow Pakistani, Saudi and Egyptian Muslims to work in the crews out of political correctness.&lt;/p&gt;

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&lt;p&gt;The fact that some of the people involved were recent converts does raise a &quot;Muslim problem&quot; with security. On the flip side, it also proves that &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.codemonkeyramblings.com/2006/08/see_it_really_is_a_meme_proble.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Islam, not Arab and Pakistani culture&lt;/a&gt;, is the root problem.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I have said&#8230; They will strip us naked, shave our heads (might have piano wire in our hair or something like that), ban all luggage&#8211;period, strap us to plexiglass plates with handcuffs so that they can see us at every angle, withour legs spread open for on-demand cavity searches&#8230;</p>

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<p>And then they will still allow Pakistani, Saudi and Egyptian Muslims to work in the crews out of political correctness.</p>

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<p>The fact that some of the people involved were recent converts does raise a &#8220;Muslim problem&#8221; with security. On the flip side, it also proves that <a href="http://www.codemonkeyramblings.com/2006/08/see_it_really_is_a_meme_proble.php" rel="nofollow">Islam, not Arab and Pakistani culture</a>, is the root problem.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: MikeT</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2006/08/14/schneier-on-security-theater/comment-page-1/#comment-34492</link>
		<dc:creator>MikeT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Aug 2006 13:40:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;As I have said... They will strip us naked, shave our heads (might have piano wire in our hair or something like that), ban all luggage--period, strap us to plexiglass plates with handcuffs so that they can see us at every angle, withour legs spread open for on-demand cavity searches...&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;And then they will still allow Pakistani, Saudi and Egyptian Muslims to work in the crews out of political correctness.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The fact that some of the people involved were recent converts does raise a &quot;Muslim problem&quot; with security. On the flip side, it also proves that &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.codemonkeyramblings.com/2006/08/see_it_really_is_a_meme_proble.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Islam, not Arab and Pakistani culture&lt;/a&gt;, is the root problem.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I have said&#8230; They will strip us naked, shave our heads (might have piano wire in our hair or something like that), ban all luggage&#8211;period, strap us to plexiglass plates with handcuffs so that they can see us at every angle, withour legs spread open for on-demand cavity searches&#8230;</p>

<p>And then they will still allow Pakistani, Saudi and Egyptian Muslims to work in the crews out of political correctness.</p>

<p>The fact that some of the people involved were recent converts does raise a &#8220;Muslim problem&#8221; with security. On the flip side, it also proves that <a href="http://www.codemonkeyramblings.com/2006/08/see_it_really_is_a_meme_proble.php" rel="nofollow">Islam, not Arab and Pakistani culture</a>, is the root problem.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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