Comments on: Framing the Copyright Debate http://techliberation.com/2006/08/13/framing-the-copyright-debate/ Keeping politicians' hands off the Net & everything else related to technology Tue, 14 Feb 2012 12:51:08 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Luis Villa http://techliberation.com/2006/08/13/framing-the-copyright-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-53901 Luis Villa Tue, 15 Aug 2006 13:06:36 +0000 http://techliberation.com/2006/08/13/framing-the-copyright-debate/#comment-53901 <p><i>Didn't much of the current IP regime arise under Clinton?</i><br><br>The Bono Act (extending copyright) and DMCA passed under Clinton, but by a Republican Senate and House. Inasmuch as this is a political problem, neither party is doing the right thing. But it has mostly been a judicial/PTO problem, not executive-level. Strongly recommend reading the excellent <a href="http://www.msen.com/~litman/digital-copyright/" rel="nofollow">Digital Copyright</a> for a good history of the problem in the copyright space, and <a href="http://www.pupress.princeton.edu/titles/7810.html" rel="nofollow">Innovation and its Discontents</a> for a similar background on the patent side.</p> Didn’t much of the current IP regime arise under Clinton?

The Bono Act (extending copyright) and DMCA passed under Clinton, but by a Republican Senate and House. Inasmuch as this is a political problem, neither party is doing the right thing. But it has mostly been a judicial/PTO problem, not executive-level. Strongly recommend reading the excellent Digital Copyright for a good history of the problem in the copyright space, and Innovation and its Discontents for a similar background on the patent side.

]]> By: Luis Villa http://techliberation.com/2006/08/13/framing-the-copyright-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-34480 Luis Villa Tue, 15 Aug 2006 12:06:36 +0000 http://techliberation.com/2006/08/13/framing-the-copyright-debate/#comment-34480 <p><i>Didn't much of the current IP regime arise under Clinton?</i></p> <p>The Bono Act (extending copyright) and DMCA passed under Clinton, but by a Republican Senate and House. Inasmuch as this is a political problem, neither party is doing the right thing. But it has mostly been a judicial/PTO problem, not executive-level. Strongly recommend reading the excellent <a href="http://www.msen.com/~litman/digital-copyright/" rel="nofollow">Digital Copyright</a> for a good history of the problem in the copyright space, and <a href="http://www.pupress.princeton.edu/titles/7810.html" rel="nofollow">Innovation and its Discontents</a> for a similar background on the patent side.</p> Didn’t much of the current IP regime arise under Clinton?

The Bono Act (extending copyright) and DMCA passed under Clinton, but by a Republican Senate and House. Inasmuch as this is a political problem, neither party is doing the right thing. But it has mostly been a judicial/PTO problem, not executive-level. Strongly recommend reading the excellent Digital Copyright for a good history of the problem in the copyright space, and Innovation and its Discontents for a similar background on the patent side.

]]> By: Noel Le http://techliberation.com/2006/08/13/framing-the-copyright-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-53900 Noel Le Mon, 14 Aug 2006 14:20:47 +0000 http://techliberation.com/2006/08/13/framing-the-copyright-debate/#comment-53900 <p>Lessig has toned down in recent years, becoming more moderate and considered in his views. Its good to see this of someone as capable of reaching diverse audiences as he.<br><br>Didn't much of the current IP regime arise under Clinton?</p> Lessig has toned down in recent years, becoming more moderate and considered in his views. Its good to see this of someone as capable of reaching diverse audiences as he.

Didn’t much of the current IP regime arise under Clinton?

]]> By: Noel Le http://techliberation.com/2006/08/13/framing-the-copyright-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-34479 Noel Le Mon, 14 Aug 2006 13:20:47 +0000 http://techliberation.com/2006/08/13/framing-the-copyright-debate/#comment-34479 <p>Lessig has toned down in recent years, becoming more moderate and considered in his views. Its good to see this of someone as capable of reaching diverse audiences as he.</p> <p>Didn't much of the current IP regime arise under Clinton?</p> Lessig has toned down in recent years, becoming more moderate and considered in his views. Its good to see this of someone as capable of reaching diverse audiences as he.

Didn’t much of the current IP regime arise under Clinton?

]]> By: Seth Finkelstein http://techliberation.com/2006/08/13/framing-the-copyright-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-53899 Seth Finkelstein Mon, 14 Aug 2006 10:13:45 +0000 http://techliberation.com/2006/08/13/framing-the-copyright-debate/#comment-53899 <p>Tim, it's much easier said that done. My own experiences in that direction have been very unpleasant. Lessig is regularly distorted, to the point that his actual very moderate position sometimes seems irrelevant to the ideological rant that (some) Republicans, conservatives, and libertarians want to write.<br><br>It's just hard to form alliances across ideological lines. Political crossover is a pundit's dream in proposing, and an activist's nightmare in execution, when crossover in theory becomes crossfire in practice.</p> Tim, it’s much easier said that done. My own experiences in that direction have been very unpleasant. Lessig is regularly distorted, to the point that his actual very moderate position sometimes seems irrelevant to the ideological rant that (some) Republicans, conservatives, and libertarians want to write.

It’s just hard to form alliances across ideological lines. Political crossover is a pundit’s dream in proposing, and an activist’s nightmare in execution, when crossover in theory becomes crossfire in practice.

]]> By: Seth Finkelstein http://techliberation.com/2006/08/13/framing-the-copyright-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-34478 Seth Finkelstein Mon, 14 Aug 2006 09:13:45 +0000 http://techliberation.com/2006/08/13/framing-the-copyright-debate/#comment-34478 <p>Tim, it's much easier said that done. My own experiences in that direction have been very unpleasant. Lessig is regularly distorted, to the point that his actual very moderate position sometimes seems irrelevant to the ideological rant that (some) Republicans, conservatives, and libertarians want to write.</p> <p>It's just hard to form alliances across ideological lines. Political crossover is a pundit's dream in proposing, and an activist's nightmare in execution, when crossover in theory becomes crossfire in practice.</p> Tim, it’s much easier said that done. My own experiences in that direction have been very unpleasant. Lessig is regularly distorted, to the point that his actual very moderate position sometimes seems irrelevant to the ideological rant that (some) Republicans, conservatives, and libertarians want to write.

It’s just hard to form alliances across ideological lines. Political crossover is a pundit’s dream in proposing, and an activist’s nightmare in execution, when crossover in theory becomes crossfire in practice.

]]> By: eee_eff http://techliberation.com/2006/08/13/framing-the-copyright-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-53898 eee_eff Mon, 14 Aug 2006 03:18:05 +0000 http://techliberation.com/2006/08/13/framing-the-copyright-debate/#comment-53898 <p><i>Advocates of sensible copyright laws desperately need to find ways to talk about their agenda that Republicans, conservatives, and libertarians find more appealing.</i><br></p> <p><br>Bullshit. Overturning the copyright cartel is one of the things that is going to make the revolution that much more <b><i>fun!</i></b><br><i><br></i></p> Advocates of sensible copyright laws desperately need to find ways to talk about their agenda that Republicans, conservatives, and libertarians find more appealing.


Bullshit. Overturning the copyright cartel is one of the things that is going to make the revolution that much more fun!

]]> By: enigma_foundry http://techliberation.com/2006/08/13/framing-the-copyright-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-34477 enigma_foundry Mon, 14 Aug 2006 02:18:05 +0000 http://techliberation.com/2006/08/13/framing-the-copyright-debate/#comment-34477 <p><i>Advocates of sensible copyright laws desperately need to find ways to talk about their agenda that Republicans, conservatives, and libertarians find more appealing.</i></p> <p> Bullshit. Overturning the copyright cartel is one of the things that is going to make the revolution that much more <b><i>fun!</i></b> <i> </i></p> Advocates of sensible copyright laws desperately need to find ways to talk about their agenda that Republicans, conservatives, and libertarians find more appealing.

Bullshit. Overturning the copyright cartel is one of the things that is going to make the revolution that much more fun!

]]> By: Mike Linksvayer http://techliberation.com/2006/08/13/framing-the-copyright-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-53897 Mike Linksvayer Sun, 13 Aug 2006 21:02:22 +0000 http://techliberation.com/2006/08/13/framing-the-copyright-debate/#comment-53897 <p>Perfect right up to the word 'Ronald' who was for limited government and free markets in just the way the copyright cartel is -- superficial rhetoric only.<br><br>I think the main opportunity is not for left-leaning copyright reformers to make inroads with free marketeers but for some of the latter to be entrepreneurs, loosely speaking, in opening up the ripe field of IP critique and reform from a free-market perspective.<br><br>In other words, clone yourself. :)</p> Perfect right up to the word ‘Ronald’ who was for limited government and free markets in just the way the copyright cartel is — superficial rhetoric only.

I think the main opportunity is not for left-leaning copyright reformers to make inroads with free marketeers but for some of the latter to be entrepreneurs, loosely speaking, in opening up the ripe field of IP critique and reform from a free-market perspective.

In other words, clone yourself. :)

]]> By: Mike Linksvayer http://techliberation.com/2006/08/13/framing-the-copyright-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-34476 Mike Linksvayer Sun, 13 Aug 2006 20:02:22 +0000 http://techliberation.com/2006/08/13/framing-the-copyright-debate/#comment-34476 <p>Perfect right up to the word 'Ronald' who was for limited government and free markets in just the way the copyright cartel is -- superficial rhetoric only.</p> <p>I think the main opportunity is not for left-leaning copyright reformers to make inroads with free marketeers but for some of the latter to be entrepreneurs, loosely speaking, in opening up the ripe field of IP critique and reform from a free-market perspective.</p> <p>In other words, clone yourself. :)</p> Perfect right up to the word ‘Ronald’ who was for limited government and free markets in just the way the copyright cartel is — superficial rhetoric only.

I think the main opportunity is not for left-leaning copyright reformers to make inroads with free marketeers but for some of the latter to be entrepreneurs, loosely speaking, in opening up the ripe field of IP critique and reform from a free-market perspective.

In other words, clone yourself. :)

]]>