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	<title>Comments on: Software Patent of the Week: Cup Holders AND a Spoiler!</title>
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		<title>By: Sten38573</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2006/06/23/software-patent-of-the-week-cup-holders-and-a-spoiler/comment-page-1/#comment-33984</link>
		<dc:creator>Sten38573</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Feb 2007 11:17:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;retty much nothing seems worth thinking about. My life&#039;s been completely dull , not that it matters. I&#039;ve just been staying at home waiting for something to happen.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>retty much nothing seems worth thinking about. My life&#8217;s been completely dull , not that it matters. I&#8217;ve just been staying at home waiting for something to happen.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Sten38573</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2006/06/23/software-patent-of-the-week-cup-holders-and-a-spoiler/comment-page-1/#comment-52338</link>
		<dc:creator>Sten38573</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Feb 2007 11:17:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;retty much nothing seems worth thinking about. My life&#039;s been completely dull , not that it matters. I&#039;ve just been staying at home waiting for something to happen.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>retty much nothing seems worth thinking about. My life&#8217;s been completely dull , not that it matters. I&#8217;ve just been staying at home waiting for something to happen.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Sten40418</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2006/06/23/software-patent-of-the-week-cup-holders-and-a-spoiler/comment-page-1/#comment-33983</link>
		<dc:creator>Sten40418</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Feb 2007 00:13:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I just don&#039;t have anything to say , but shrug. So it goes. Not much on my mind recently. I can&#039;t be bothered with anything recently.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: Sten40418</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2006/06/23/software-patent-of-the-week-cup-holders-and-a-spoiler/comment-page-1/#comment-52337</link>
		<dc:creator>Sten40418</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Feb 2007 00:13:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I just don&#039;t have anything to say , but shrug. So it goes. Not much on my mind recently. I can&#039;t be bothered with anything recently.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: Sten42105</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2006/06/23/software-patent-of-the-week-cup-holders-and-a-spoiler/comment-page-1/#comment-33982</link>
		<dc:creator>Sten42105</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 02:16:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I haven&#039;t gotten anything done recently. I&#039;ve just been hanging out doing nothing. I haven&#039;t been up to anything these days, but it&#039;s not important. Today was a total loss.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: Sten42105</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2006/06/23/software-patent-of-the-week-cup-holders-and-a-spoiler/comment-page-1/#comment-52336</link>
		<dc:creator>Sten42105</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 02:16:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Sten92020</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2006/06/23/software-patent-of-the-week-cup-holders-and-a-spoiler/comment-page-1/#comment-33981</link>
		<dc:creator>Sten92020</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 16:09:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I feel like an empty room, but eh. Nothing seems worth doing. I haven&#039;t gotten much done today.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: Sten92020</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2006/06/23/software-patent-of-the-week-cup-holders-and-a-spoiler/comment-page-1/#comment-52335</link>
		<dc:creator>Sten92020</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 16:09:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<link>http://techliberation.com/2006/06/23/software-patent-of-the-week-cup-holders-and-a-spoiler/comment-page-1/#comment-33980</link>
		<dc:creator>Sten85225</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 11:05:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I just don&#039;t have much to say these days, but so it goes. Today was a total loss. I guess it doesn&#039;t bother me.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: Sten85225</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2006/06/23/software-patent-of-the-week-cup-holders-and-a-spoiler/comment-page-1/#comment-52334</link>
		<dc:creator>Sten85225</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 11:05:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Sten63980</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2006/06/23/software-patent-of-the-week-cup-holders-and-a-spoiler/comment-page-1/#comment-33979</link>
		<dc:creator>Sten63980</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 05:06:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Sten63980</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2006/06/23/software-patent-of-the-week-cup-holders-and-a-spoiler/comment-page-1/#comment-52333</link>
		<dc:creator>Sten63980</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 05:06:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jan 2007 23:57:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<link>http://techliberation.com/2006/06/23/software-patent-of-the-week-cup-holders-and-a-spoiler/comment-page-1/#comment-52330</link>
		<dc:creator>angry dude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Aug 2006 14:55:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Idiots !&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If you can&#039;t read and understand the patent in question just say so...&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Mr. Amado is not some poor peasant from Guatemala trying to blackmail MShit.&lt;br&gt;he was a Stanford Ph.D. student when he came up with his very clever way of linking spreadsheet and database progams.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You are just complete morons, leave Mr. Amado alone ...&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Idiots !<br /><br />If you can&#8217;t read and understand the patent in question just say so&#8230;<br /><br />Mr. Amado is not some poor peasant from Guatemala trying to blackmail MShit.<br />he was a Stanford Ph.D. student when he came up with his very clever way of linking spreadsheet and database progams.<br /><br />You are just complete morons, leave Mr. Amado alone &#8230;</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: angry dude</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2006/06/23/software-patent-of-the-week-cup-holders-and-a-spoiler/comment-page-1/#comment-33976</link>
		<dc:creator>angry dude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Aug 2006 13:55:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Idiots !&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If you can&#039;t read and understand the patent in question just say so...&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Mr. Amado is not some poor peasant from Guatemala trying to blackmail MShit.
he was a Stanford Ph.D. student when he came up with his very clever way of linking spreadsheet and database progams.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;You are just complete morons, leave Mr. Amado alone ...&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Idiots !</p>

<p>If you can&#8217;t read and understand the patent in question just say so&#8230;</p>

<p>Mr. Amado is not some poor peasant from Guatemala trying to blackmail MShit.
he was a Stanford Ph.D. student when he came up with his very clever way of linking spreadsheet and database progams.</p>

<p>You are just complete morons, leave Mr. Amado alone &#8230;</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Bruce</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jun 2006 16:42:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Drat, bad link, this is where I was trying to send you:  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.patentlyo.com/patent/2006/06/supreme_court_g.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.patentlyo.com/patent/2006/06/supreme_court_g.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: Bruce</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jun 2006 16:40:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The Supreme Court &lt;a href=&quot;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;just granted cert.&lt;/a&gt; on the very issue you discuss in this post.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: Bruce</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jun 2006 15:42:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Drat, bad link, this is where I was trying to send you:  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.patentlyo.com/patent/2006/06/supreme_court_g.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.patentlyo.com/patent/2006/06/supreme_court_g.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Drat, bad link, this is where I was trying to send you:  <a href="http://www.patentlyo.com/patent/2006/06/supreme_court_g.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.patentlyo.com/patent/2006/06/supreme_court_g.html</a></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Bruce</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jun 2006 15:40:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The Supreme Court &lt;a href=&quot;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;just granted cert.&lt;/a&gt; on the very issue you discuss in this post.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Supreme Court <a href="" rel="nofollow">just granted cert.</a> on the very issue you discuss in this post.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: ted</title>
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		<dc:creator>ted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jun 2006 05:48:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The comment in the patent about Turing Equivalence is actually quite damning.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Practically every modern programming language/paradigm is &quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turing-complete&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;turing complete&lt;/a&gt;.&quot;  And thus, technically, there is no more powerful computer than a Turing Computer -- it can compute anything that is computable.  This isn&#039;t a performance claim, it&#039;s an expressability claim.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The reason this is somewhat damning, is because of the so-called doctrine of equivalence.  The doctrine of equivalence is usually used by a patent holder to broaden the scope of infringement, giving patent holders the right to claim not only inventions that work as described, but ones that work in an &#039;equivalent&#039; manner.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The problem here is that Amado is claiming he has invented a turing machine equivalent, and Turing machines have been around since when, about 1930?  So not only is this a prima facie admittal that he knew he wasn&#039;t doing something new, but also an insanely broad description of the &quot;full power&quot; of his invention.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The fact that the examiner didn&#039;t reject a patent with such obviously bad claims (any 2nd year CS student understands this garbage) is a damning statement of how expert USPTO examiners really are.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The comment in the patent about Turing Equivalence is actually quite damning.<br /><br />Practically every modern programming language/paradigm is &#8220;<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turing-complete" rel="nofollow">turing complete</a>.&#8221;  And thus, technically, there is no more powerful computer than a Turing Computer &#8212; it can compute anything that is computable.  This isn&#8217;t a performance claim, it&#8217;s an expressability claim.<br /><br />The reason this is somewhat damning, is because of the so-called doctrine of equivalence.  The doctrine of equivalence is usually used by a patent holder to broaden the scope of infringement, giving patent holders the right to claim not only inventions that work as described, but ones that work in an &#8216;equivalent&#8217; manner.<br /><br />The problem here is that Amado is claiming he has invented a turing machine equivalent, and Turing machines have been around since when, about 1930?  So not only is this a prima facie admittal that he knew he wasn&#8217;t doing something new, but also an insanely broad description of the &#8220;full power&#8221; of his invention.<br /><br />The fact that the examiner didn&#8217;t reject a patent with such obviously bad claims (any 2nd year CS student understands this garbage) is a damning statement of how expert USPTO examiners really are.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: ted</title>
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		<dc:creator>ted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jun 2006 04:48:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The comment in the patent about Turing Equivalence is actually quite damning.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Practically every modern programming language/paradigm is &quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turing-complete&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;turing complete&lt;/a&gt;.&quot;  And thus, technically, there is no more powerful computer than a Turing Computer -- it can compute anything that is computable.  This isn&#039;t a performance claim, it&#039;s an expressability claim.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The reason this is somewhat damning, is because of the so-called doctrine of equivalence.  The doctrine of equivalence is usually used by a patent holder to broaden the scope of infringement, giving patent holders the right to claim not only inventions that work as described, but ones that work in an &#039;equivalent&#039; manner.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The problem here is that Amado is claiming he has invented a turing machine equivalent, and Turing machines have been around since when, about 1930?  So not only is this a prima facie admittal that he knew he wasn&#039;t doing something new, but also an insanely broad description of the &quot;full power&quot; of his invention.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The fact that the examiner didn&#039;t reject a patent with such obviously bad claims (any 2nd year CS student understands this garbage) is a damning statement of how expert USPTO examiners really are.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The comment in the patent about Turing Equivalence is actually quite damning.</p>

<p>Practically every modern programming language/paradigm is &#8220;<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turing-complete" rel="nofollow">turing complete</a>.&#8221;  And thus, technically, there is no more powerful computer than a Turing Computer &#8212; it can compute anything that is computable.  This isn&#8217;t a performance claim, it&#8217;s an expressability claim.</p>

<p>The reason this is somewhat damning, is because of the so-called doctrine of equivalence.  The doctrine of equivalence is usually used by a patent holder to broaden the scope of infringement, giving patent holders the right to claim not only inventions that work as described, but ones that work in an &#8216;equivalent&#8217; manner.</p>

<p>The problem here is that Amado is claiming he has invented a turing machine equivalent, and Turing machines have been around since when, about 1930?  So not only is this a prima facie admittal that he knew he wasn&#8217;t doing something new, but also an insanely broad description of the &#8220;full power&#8221; of his invention.</p>

<p>The fact that the examiner didn&#8217;t reject a patent with such obviously bad claims (any 2nd year CS student understands this garbage) is a damning statement of how expert USPTO examiners really are.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: fishbane</title>
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		<dc:creator>fishbane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jun 2006 23:40:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;Don&#039;t most computing devices operate more efficiently than a Turing machine?&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Depends on whether your referent is an actual replication of the device Turing imagined (physical tapes and all), or more generally a member of the class of devices which are functionally indentical to a Turing machine.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In the first place, yes, in the second, no.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Sorry to be pendantic, but you did say is was an aside for geeks...&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Don&#8217;t most computing devices operate more efficiently than a Turing machine?</i><br /><br />Depends on whether your referent is an actual replication of the device Turing imagined (physical tapes and all), or more generally a member of the class of devices which are functionally indentical to a Turing machine.<br /><br />In the first place, yes, in the second, no.<br /><br />Sorry to be pendantic, but you did say is was an aside for geeks&#8230;</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: fishbane</title>
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		<dc:creator>fishbane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jun 2006 22:40:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;Don&#039;t most computing devices operate more efficiently than a Turing machine?&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Depends on whether your referent is an actual replication of the device Turing imagined (physical tapes and all), or more generally a member of the class of devices which are functionally indentical to a Turing machine.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;In the first place, yes, in the second, no.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Sorry to be pendantic, but you did say is was an aside for geeks...&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>Depends on whether your referent is an actual replication of the device Turing imagined (physical tapes and all), or more generally a member of the class of devices which are functionally indentical to a Turing machine.</p>

<p>In the first place, yes, in the second, no.</p>

<p>Sorry to be pendantic, but you did say is was an aside for geeks&#8230;</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jun 2006 02:54:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;In response to your comment, where you said &quot;&lt;i&gt;I am still left with a fundamental problem of what was theoretically patented.&lt;/i&gt;&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;That is basically my entire point. The patent is so full of jargon that certainly a patent examiner is going to have trouble determining what it means. I think many/most patents rely on the use of obfuscation via jargon, in an attempt to purposefully create the mistaken impression that their &quot;ideas are unique&quot;.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I also agree with your point about &quot;borrowed code&quot;. Code borrowing would qualify for a royalty. I wonder what&#039;s going to happen if/when people start patenting more medical procedures. Does that mean that only certain hospital would be allowed to perform certain combinations of life-saving treatments? I wonder if this is aleady a problem.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;By the logic of most software patent holders, combination therapy for illnesses can be patented. &lt;a href=&quot;http://Scary.com&quot;&gt;Scary.com&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;More vomit, more vomit, more vomit.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In response to your comment, where you said &#8220;<i>I am still left with a fundamental problem of what was theoretically patented.</i>&#8220;<br /><br /></p>

<p>That is basically my entire point. The patent is so full of jargon that certainly a patent examiner is going to have trouble determining what it means. I think many/most patents rely on the use of obfuscation via jargon, in an attempt to purposefully create the mistaken impression that their &#8220;ideas are unique&#8221;.<br /><br /></p>

<p>I also agree with your point about &#8220;borrowed code&#8221;. Code borrowing would qualify for a royalty. I wonder what&#8217;s going to happen if/when people start patenting more medical procedures. Does that mean that only certain hospital would be allowed to perform certain combinations of life-saving treatments? I wonder if this is aleady a problem.<br /><br /></p>

<p>By the logic of most software patent holders, combination therapy for illnesses can be patented. <a href="http://Scary.com">Scary.com</a>.<br /><br /></p>

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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jun 2006 01:54:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;In response to your comment, where you said &quot;&lt;i&gt;I am still left with a fundamental problem of what was theoretically patented.&lt;/i&gt;&quot;

&lt;p&gt;That is basically my entire point. The patent is so full of jargon that certainly a patent examiner is going to have trouble determining what it means. I think many/most patents rely on the use of obfuscation via jargon, in an attempt to purposefully create the mistaken impression that their &quot;ideas are unique&quot;.

&lt;p&gt;I also agree with your point about &quot;borrowed code&quot;. Code borrowing would qualify for a royalty. I wonder what&#039;s going to happen if/when people start patenting more medical procedures. Does that mean that only certain hospital would be allowed to perform certain combinations of life-saving treatments? I wonder if this is aleady a problem.

&lt;p&gt;By the logic of most software patent holders, combination therapy for illnesses can be patented. Scary.com.

&lt;p&gt;More vomit, more vomit, more vomit.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In response to your comment, where you said &#8220;<i>I am still left with a fundamental problem of what was theoretically patented.</i>&#8221;

</p><p>That is basically my entire point. The patent is so full of jargon that certainly a patent examiner is going to have trouble determining what it means. I think many/most patents rely on the use of obfuscation via jargon, in an attempt to purposefully create the mistaken impression that their &#8220;ideas are unique&#8221;.

</p><p>I also agree with your point about &#8220;borrowed code&#8221;. Code borrowing would qualify for a royalty. I wonder what&#8217;s going to happen if/when people start patenting more medical procedures. Does that mean that only certain hospital would be allowed to perform certain combinations of life-saving treatments? I wonder if this is aleady a problem.

</p><p>By the logic of most software patent holders, combination therapy for illnesses can be patented. Scary.com.

</p><p>More vomit, more vomit, more vomit.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Steve R.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve R.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jun 2006 14:09:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;PS: You are correct to say that assemblying existing features into a package would not be worthy of a patent.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: Steve R.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve R.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jun 2006 13:46:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I am still left with a fundamental problem of what was theoretically patented.  If the &quot;product&quot; description was simply a schematic of linked &quot;black boxes&quot; backed up by excruciating abstract narrative, then I fail to see how any patent could have been granted as the product would constitute &quot;vaporware&quot; since it only exists as a concept.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Now if Mr. Amada actually wrote real code for that successfully integrated a spreadsheet and database there may be an excuse for Mr. Amada to receive a royalty based copyright law provided that Microsoft &quot;borrowed&quot; his code.  However, if Microsoft simply reversed engineered this concept, Mr. Amada would not be entitled to anything.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am still left with a fundamental problem of what was theoretically patented.  If the &#8220;product&#8221; description was simply a schematic of linked &#8220;black boxes&#8221; backed up by excruciating abstract narrative, then I fail to see how any patent could have been granted as the product would constitute &#8220;vaporware&#8221; since it only exists as a concept.<br /><br />Now if Mr. Amada actually wrote real code for that successfully integrated a spreadsheet and database there may be an excuse for Mr. Amada to receive a royalty based copyright law provided that Microsoft &#8220;borrowed&#8221; his code.  However, if Microsoft simply reversed engineered this concept, Mr. Amada would not be entitled to anything.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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