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]]> By: Anton Sherwood http://techliberation.com/2006/05/31/broken-windows-on-the-internet/comment-page-1/#comment-51992 Anton Sherwood Sun, 18 Jun 2006 06:41:54 +0000 http://techliberation.com/2006/05/31/broken-windows-on-the-internet/#comment-51992 <p>If the absence of payment does not make Wikipedia valueless, neither does it make Wikipedia costless.</p> If the absence of payment does not make Wikipedia valueless, neither does it make Wikipedia costless.

]]> By: Anton Sherwood http://techliberation.com/2006/05/31/broken-windows-on-the-internet/comment-page-1/#comment-33650 Anton Sherwood Sun, 18 Jun 2006 05:41:54 +0000 http://techliberation.com/2006/05/31/broken-windows-on-the-internet/#comment-33650 <p>If the absence of payment does not make Wikipedia valueless, neither does it make Wikipedia costless.</p> If the absence of payment does not make Wikipedia valueless, neither does it make Wikipedia costless.

]]> By: eee_eff http://techliberation.com/2006/05/31/broken-windows-on-the-internet/comment-page-1/#comment-51991 eee_eff Thu, 01 Jun 2006 04:37:09 +0000 http://techliberation.com/2006/05/31/broken-windows-on-the-internet/#comment-51991 <p>"How do we know that Wikipedia and SETI@Home don't contribute in any meaningful way to the U.S. economy?"<br></p> <p><br>Obviously, they are of value to the economy. Just because they are not overtly monetized certainly does not mean they are not of value.<br></p> <p><br>"By the same logic, the sun and the air don't contribute in any meaningful way to the U.S. economy."<br></p> <p><br>Strongly recommend the book "The Future of Life" by Edward Wilson, The Future of Life, in which he does take a stab at valuing the biosphere.<br></p> <p><br>But, let's get back to the reason these phenomena are so revolutionary--not because they have built an Encyclopedia (which is in fact very good, but I digress) or a super computer but because they have done so outside of the control infrastructure of the traditional hierarchies.<br></p> <p><br>That is why wikipedia, open source software, have been so vilified by those agents of the powerful traditional hierarchies.<br></p> <p><br>Examples of this vilification: Microsoft calling FOSS "cancerous", Brittanica response to the Nature study, SCO suit against linux, and you can look at those apologists of the corporate power infrastructure attacking open source and Free Culture at such propaganda sites as IP Central every day...</p> “How do we know that Wikipedia and SETI@Home don’t contribute in any meaningful way to the U.S. economy?”


Obviously, they are of value to the economy. Just because they are not overtly monetized certainly does not mean they are not of value.


“By the same logic, the sun and the air don’t contribute in any meaningful way to the U.S. economy.”


Strongly recommend the book “The Future of Life” by Edward Wilson, The Future of Life, in which he does take a stab at valuing the biosphere.


But, let’s get back to the reason these phenomena are so revolutionary–not because they have built an Encyclopedia (which is in fact very good, but I digress) or a super computer but because they have done so outside of the control infrastructure of the traditional hierarchies.


That is why wikipedia, open source software, have been so vilified by those agents of the powerful traditional hierarchies.


Examples of this vilification: Microsoft calling FOSS “cancerous”, Brittanica response to the Nature study, SCO suit against linux, and you can look at those apologists of the corporate power infrastructure attacking open source and Free Culture at such propaganda sites as IP Central every day…

]]> By: enigma_foundry http://techliberation.com/2006/05/31/broken-windows-on-the-internet/comment-page-1/#comment-33649 enigma_foundry Thu, 01 Jun 2006 03:37:09 +0000 http://techliberation.com/2006/05/31/broken-windows-on-the-internet/#comment-33649 <p>"How do we know that Wikipedia and SETI@Home don't contribute in any meaningful way to the U.S. economy?"</p> <p> Obviously, they are of value to the economy. Just because they are not overtly monetized certainly does not mean they are not of value. <p> "By the same logic, the sun and the air don't contribute in any meaningful way to the U.S. economy." <p> Strongly recommend the book "The Future of Life" by Edward Wilson, The Future of Life, in which he does take a stab at valuing the biosphere. <p> But, let's get back to the reason these phenomena are so revolutionary--not because they have built an Encyclopedia (which is in fact very good, but I digress) or a super computer but because they have done so outside of the control infrastructure of the traditional hierarchies. <p> That is why wikipedia, open source software, have been so vilified by those agents of the powerful traditional hierarchies. <p> Examples of this vilification: Microsoft calling FOSS "cancerous", Brittanica response to the Nature study, SCO suit against linux, and you can look at those apologists of the corporate power infrastructure attacking open source and Free Culture at such propaganda sites as IP Central every day...</p></p></p></p></p></p> “How do we know that Wikipedia and SETI@Home don’t contribute in any meaningful way to the U.S. economy?”

Obviously, they are of value to the economy. Just because they are not overtly monetized certainly does not mean they are not of value.

“By the same logic, the sun and the air don’t contribute in any meaningful way to the U.S. economy.”

Strongly recommend the book “The Future of Life” by Edward Wilson, The Future of Life, in which he does take a stab at valuing the biosphere.

But, let’s get back to the reason these phenomena are so revolutionary–not because they have built an Encyclopedia (which is in fact very good, but I digress) or a super computer but because they have done so outside of the control infrastructure of the traditional hierarchies.

That is why wikipedia, open source software, have been so vilified by those agents of the powerful traditional hierarchies.

Examples of this vilification: Microsoft calling FOSS “cancerous”, Brittanica response to the Nature study, SCO suit against linux, and you can look at those apologists of the corporate power infrastructure attacking open source and Free Culture at such propaganda sites as IP Central every day…

]]> By: Greg Lastowka http://techliberation.com/2006/05/31/broken-windows-on-the-internet/comment-page-1/#comment-51990 Greg Lastowka Thu, 01 Jun 2006 03:12:14 +0000 http://techliberation.com/2006/05/31/broken-windows-on-the-internet/#comment-51990 <p>Whoops, bungled the HTML for the link.<br><br>Here's the plain text:<br><a href="http://crookedtimber.org/2006/05/30/a-general-theory-of-information-policy/">http://crookedtimber.org/2006/05/30/a-general-t...</a></p> Whoops, bungled the HTML for the link.

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]]> By: Greg Lastowka http://techliberation.com/2006/05/31/broken-windows-on-the-internet/comment-page-1/#comment-51989 Greg Lastowka Thu, 01 Jun 2006 03:10:06 +0000 http://techliberation.com/2006/05/31/broken-windows-on-the-internet/#comment-51989 <p>Fwiw, there's a discussion of Yochai's book going on over at Crooked Timber, including a review by Dan Hunter.<br><br><a>link<br><br>I agree with you (of course) that the Wikipedia model provides economic value, perhaps even more than Britannica provides. It strikes me, though, that the peer production & sharing model might have a disadvantage in producing campaign contributions. One thing about these particular broken windows is that the glaziers know how to lobby effectively, while the shopkeepers face some significant collective action problems.<br></a></p> Fwiw, there’s a discussion of Yochai’s book going on over at Crooked Timber, including a review by Dan Hunter.

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I agree with you (of course) that the Wikipedia model provides economic value, perhaps even more than Britannica provides. It strikes me, though, that the peer production & sharing model might have a disadvantage in producing campaign contributions. One thing about these particular broken windows is that the glaziers know how to lobby effectively, while the shopkeepers face some significant collective action problems.

]]> By: Greg Lastowka http://techliberation.com/2006/05/31/broken-windows-on-the-internet/comment-page-1/#comment-33648 Greg Lastowka Thu, 01 Jun 2006 02:12:14 +0000 http://techliberation.com/2006/05/31/broken-windows-on-the-internet/#comment-33648 <p>Whoops, bungled the HTML for the link.</p> <p>Here's the plain text: http://crookedtimber.org/2006/05/30/a-general-theory-of-information-policy/</p> Whoops, bungled the HTML for the link.

Here’s the plain text: http://crookedtimber.org/2006/05/30/a-general-theory-of-information-policy/

]]> By: Greg Lastowka http://techliberation.com/2006/05/31/broken-windows-on-the-internet/comment-page-1/#comment-33647 Greg Lastowka Thu, 01 Jun 2006 02:10:06 +0000 http://techliberation.com/2006/05/31/broken-windows-on-the-internet/#comment-33647 <p>Fwiw, there's a discussion of Yochai's book going on over at Crooked Timber, including a review by Dan Hunter.</p> <p><a / rel="nofollow">link</p> <p>I agree with you (of course) that the Wikipedia model provides economic value, perhaps even more than Britannica provides. It strikes me, though, that the peer production & sharing model might have a disadvantage in producing campaign contributions. One thing about these particular broken windows is that the glaziers know how to lobby effectively, while the shopkeepers face some significant collective action problems.</p> Fwiw, there’s a discussion of Yochai’s book going on over at Crooked Timber, including a review by Dan Hunter.

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I agree with you (of course) that the Wikipedia model provides economic value, perhaps even more than Britannica provides. It strikes me, though, that the peer production & sharing model might have a disadvantage in producing campaign contributions. One thing about these particular broken windows is that the glaziers know how to lobby effectively, while the shopkeepers face some significant collective action problems.

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