Comments on: The Future of Music? http://techliberation.com/2006/05/23/the-future-of-music/ The Technology Liberation Front is the tech policy blog dedicated to keeping politicians' hands off the 'net and everything else related to technology. Wed, 20 Aug 2008 10:25:51 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: tramadol http://techliberation.com/2006/05/23/the-future-of-music/#comment-33574 tramadol Sun, 21 Jan 2007 23:39:59 +0000 http://techliberation.com/2006/05/23/the-future-of-music/#comment-33574 81e31de21f46 Hi <a href="http://www.abc-acupuncture.com/baxqorav" rel="nofollow">tramadol</a> tramadol 81e31de21f46 Hi tramadol tramadol

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]]> By: pauljs75 http://techliberation.com/2006/05/23/the-future-of-music/#comment-54678 pauljs75 Mon, 17 Jul 2006 15:18:17 +0000 http://techliberation.com/2006/05/23/the-future-of-music/#comment-54678 If this was dealing with CDs instead of online content, TweakUI and winLAME used in combination might yield a ridiculously simple solution. If this was dealing with CDs instead of online content, TweakUI and winLAME used in combination might yield a ridiculously simple solution.

]]> By: pauljs75 http://techliberation.com/2006/05/23/the-future-of-music/#comment-33573 pauljs75 Mon, 17 Jul 2006 14:18:17 +0000 http://techliberation.com/2006/05/23/the-future-of-music/#comment-33573 If this was dealing with CDs instead of online content, TweakUI and winLAME used in combination might yield a ridiculously simple solution. If this was dealing with CDs instead of online content, TweakUI and winLAME used in combination might yield a ridiculously simple solution.

]]> By: Froppo http://techliberation.com/2006/05/23/the-future-of-music/#comment-54677 Froppo Sat, 17 Jun 2006 06:31:49 +0000 http://techliberation.com/2006/05/23/the-future-of-music/#comment-54677 I'm glad that there are some companies in the world that have realized treating customers like criminals equal decreased sales. I put a post on a BMI hosted forum to stir the pot a little bit. Basically in my post I stated, "isn't it ironic that an industry bent on ripping people off immediately came to the conclusion that everyone was trying to rip them off?". As you can imagine I got quite the response. Most of the respondents cowered to name calling and telling me I was worthless because I was an intern. Others ripped on the fact that I was a college student and concluded that because of this I must not be very intelligent. Funny all of them avoided the issue at hand. None of them gave me facts or evidence to the contrary of what I was saying.<br><br>Needless to say I think I'll be using eMusic from now on. The major label record industry obviously does not need sales from ignorant college students or, God forbid, ignorant college interns. I’m glad that there are some companies in the world that have realized treating customers like criminals equal decreased sales. I put a post on a BMI hosted forum to stir the pot a little bit. Basically in my post I stated, “isn’t it ironic that an industry bent on ripping people off immediately came to the conclusion that everyone was trying to rip them off?”. As you can imagine I got quite the response. Most of the respondents cowered to name calling and telling me I was worthless because I was an intern. Others ripped on the fact that I was a college student and concluded that because of this I must not be very intelligent. Funny all of them avoided the issue at hand. None of them gave me facts or evidence to the contrary of what I was saying.

Needless to say I think I’ll be using eMusic from now on. The major label record industry obviously does not need sales from ignorant college students or, God forbid, ignorant college interns.

]]> By: Froppo http://techliberation.com/2006/05/23/the-future-of-music/#comment-33572 Froppo Sat, 17 Jun 2006 05:31:49 +0000 http://techliberation.com/2006/05/23/the-future-of-music/#comment-33572 I'm glad that there are some companies in the world that have realized treating customers like criminals equal decreased sales. I put a post on a BMI hosted forum to stir the pot a little bit. Basically in my post I stated, "isn't it ironic that an industry bent on ripping people off immediately came to the conclusion that everyone was trying to rip them off?". As you can imagine I got quite the response. Most of the respondents cowered to name calling and telling me I was worthless because I was an intern. Others ripped on the fact that I was a college student and concluded that because of this I must not be very intelligent. Funny all of them avoided the issue at hand. None of them gave me facts or evidence to the contrary of what I was saying. Needless to say I think I'll be using eMusic from now on. The major label record industry obviously does not need sales from ignorant college students or, God forbid, ignorant college interns. I’m glad that there are some companies in the world that have realized treating customers like criminals equal decreased sales. I put a post on a BMI hosted forum to stir the pot a little bit. Basically in my post I stated, “isn’t it ironic that an industry bent on ripping people off immediately came to the conclusion that everyone was trying to rip them off?”. As you can imagine I got quite the response. Most of the respondents cowered to name calling and telling me I was worthless because I was an intern. Others ripped on the fact that I was a college student and concluded that because of this I must not be very intelligent. Funny all of them avoided the issue at hand. None of them gave me facts or evidence to the contrary of what I was saying.

Needless to say I think I’ll be using eMusic from now on. The major label record industry obviously does not need sales from ignorant college students or, God forbid, ignorant college interns.

]]> By: Robert Feisee http://techliberation.com/2006/05/23/the-future-of-music/#comment-54676 Robert Feisee Fri, 09 Jun 2006 07:37:01 +0000 http://techliberation.com/2006/05/23/the-future-of-music/#comment-54676 so does this mean that emusic is a substitute for itunes or am i way off? so does this mean that emusic is a substitute for itunes or am i way off?

]]> By: Robert Feisee http://techliberation.com/2006/05/23/the-future-of-music/#comment-33571 Robert Feisee Fri, 09 Jun 2006 06:37:01 +0000 http://techliberation.com/2006/05/23/the-future-of-music/#comment-33571 so does this mean that emusic is a substitute for itunes or am i way off? so does this mean that emusic is a substitute for itunes or am i way off?

]]> By: GBGames http://techliberation.com/2006/05/23/the-future-of-music/#comment-54675 GBGames Thu, 25 May 2006 17:08:07 +0000 http://techliberation.com/2006/05/23/the-future-of-music/#comment-54675 ****WHY are there no investors flocking to develop high-quality content that is not protected by DRM? IF there is another way, this is a HUGE opportunity for someone to make a lot of money. WHERE are the new business models? Grokster is just a distribution technology, it doesn't PRODUCE content.<br><br>How is one supposed to tie music or movies to services if anyone with a digital editor can untie them and post the untied content!!!!! ****<br><br>That was from Solveig Singleton on May 15th in a comment on a previous TL post. So besides asking audiolunchbox (which offers ogg as well as mp3), I guess the query can be posed to all of the compaines listed above, too. B-) ****WHY are there no investors flocking to develop high-quality content that is not protected by DRM? IF there is another way, this is a HUGE opportunity for someone to make a lot of money. WHERE are the new business models? Grokster is just a distribution technology, it doesn’t PRODUCE content.

How is one supposed to tie music or movies to services if anyone with a digital editor can untie them and post the untied content!!!!! ****

That was from Solveig Singleton on May 15th in a comment on a previous TL post. So besides asking audiolunchbox (which offers ogg as well as mp3), I guess the query can be posed to all of the compaines listed above, too. B-)

]]> By: GBGames http://techliberation.com/2006/05/23/the-future-of-music/#comment-33570 GBGames Thu, 25 May 2006 16:08:07 +0000 http://techliberation.com/2006/05/23/the-future-of-music/#comment-33570 ****WHY are there no investors flocking to develop high-quality content that is not protected by DRM? IF there is another way, this is a HUGE opportunity for someone to make a lot of money. WHERE are the new business models? Grokster is just a distribution technology, it doesn't PRODUCE content. How is one supposed to tie music or movies to services if anyone with a digital editor can untie them and post the untied content!!!!! **** That was from Solveig Singleton on May 15th in a comment on a previous TL post. So besides asking audiolunchbox (which offers ogg as well as mp3), I guess the query can be posed to all of the compaines listed above, too. B-) ****WHY are there no investors flocking to develop high-quality content that is not protected by DRM? IF there is another way, this is a HUGE opportunity for someone to make a lot of money. WHERE are the new business models? Grokster is just a distribution technology, it doesn’t PRODUCE content.

How is one supposed to tie music or movies to services if anyone with a digital editor can untie them and post the untied content!!!!! ****

That was from Solveig Singleton on May 15th in a comment on a previous TL post. So besides asking audiolunchbox (which offers ogg as well as mp3), I guess the query can be posed to all of the compaines listed above, too. B-)

]]> By: Mike Linksvayer http://techliberation.com/2006/05/23/the-future-of-music/#comment-54674 Mike Linksvayer Thu, 25 May 2006 02:50:02 +0000 http://techliberation.com/2006/05/23/the-future-of-music/#comment-54674 Don Marti, he's off by a large number. There are many <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Online_music_store#Online_Music_Store_Comparison_table" rel="nofollow">DRM-free music stores</a>, not counting many labels and artists selling only their music DRM free.<br><br>Technically Pakman's comment should be qualified with "having non-neglible market share" or similar, but this does not detract at all from his point. Don Marti, he’s off by a large number. There are many DRM-free music stores, not counting many labels and artists selling only their music DRM free.

Technically Pakman’s comment should be qualified with “having non-neglible market share” or similar, but this does not detract at all from his point.

]]> By: Mike Linksvayer http://techliberation.com/2006/05/23/the-future-of-music/#comment-33569 Mike Linksvayer Thu, 25 May 2006 01:50:02 +0000 http://techliberation.com/2006/05/23/the-future-of-music/#comment-33569 Don Marti, he's off by a large number. There are many <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Online_music_store#Online_Music_Store_Comparison_table" rel="nofollow">DRM-free music stores</a>, not counting many labels and artists selling only their music DRM free. Technically Pakman's comment should be qualified with "having non-neglible market share" or similar, but this does not detract at all from his point. Don Marti, he’s off by a large number. There are many DRM-free music stores, not counting many labels and artists selling only their music DRM free.

Technically Pakman’s comment should be qualified with “having non-neglible market share” or similar, but this does not detract at all from his point.

]]> By: Rob Hyndman http://techliberation.com/2006/05/23/the-future-of-music/#comment-54673 Rob Hyndman Wed, 24 May 2006 11:27:40 +0000 http://techliberation.com/2006/05/23/the-future-of-music/#comment-54673 Tim - what strikes me as interesting is the idea of the eMusics of the world turning the traditional scattershot model of the big labels on its head by forgoing DRM and turning instead to the long tail. The majors think they need DRM to protect the one hit that surfaces and pays for all the 'losers'. The eMusic model is instead to increase the return on all the smaller acts. UnDRM is beginning to look like a viable competitive threat to the BigMusic model. Tim - what strikes me as interesting is the idea of the eMusics of the world turning the traditional scattershot model of the big labels on its head by forgoing DRM and turning instead to the long tail. The majors think they need DRM to protect the one hit that surfaces and pays for all the ‘losers’. The eMusic model is instead to increase the return on all the smaller acts. UnDRM is beginning to look like a viable competitive threat to the BigMusic model.

]]> By: Rob Hyndman http://techliberation.com/2006/05/23/the-future-of-music/#comment-33568 Rob Hyndman Wed, 24 May 2006 10:27:40 +0000 http://techliberation.com/2006/05/23/the-future-of-music/#comment-33568 Tim - what strikes me as interesting is the idea of the eMusics of the world turning the traditional scattershot model of the big labels on its head by forgoing DRM and turning instead to the long tail. The majors think they need DRM to protect the one hit that surfaces and pays for all the 'losers'. The eMusic model is instead to increase the return on all the smaller acts. UnDRM is beginning to look like a viable competitive threat to the BigMusic model. Tim - what strikes me as interesting is the idea of the eMusics of the world turning the traditional scattershot model of the big labels on its head by forgoing DRM and turning instead to the long tail. The majors think they need DRM to protect the one hit that surfaces and pays for all the ‘losers’. The eMusic model is instead to increase the return on all the smaller acts. UnDRM is beginning to look like a viable competitive threat to the BigMusic model.

]]> By: dmarti http://techliberation.com/2006/05/23/the-future-of-music/#comment-54672 dmarti Wed, 24 May 2006 04:11:47 +0000 http://techliberation.com/2006/05/23/the-future-of-music/#comment-54672 Pakman is off by one -- <a href="http://www.magnatune.com/" rel="nofollow">Magnatune</a> also sells DRM-free music online, and you get the choice of MP3, Ogg Vorbis, or FLAC. Pakman is off by one — Magnatune also sells DRM-free music online, and you get the choice of MP3, Ogg Vorbis, or FLAC.

]]> By: Don Marti http://techliberation.com/2006/05/23/the-future-of-music/#comment-33567 Don Marti Wed, 24 May 2006 03:11:47 +0000 http://techliberation.com/2006/05/23/the-future-of-music/#comment-33567 Pakman is off by one -- <a href="http://www.magnatune.com/" rel="nofollow">Magnatune</a> also sells DRM-free music online, and you get the choice of MP3, Ogg Vorbis, or FLAC. Pakman is off by one — Magnatune also sells DRM-free music online, and you get the choice of MP3, Ogg Vorbis, or FLAC.

]]> By: Doug Lay http://techliberation.com/2006/05/23/the-future-of-music/#comment-54671 Doug Lay Tue, 23 May 2006 22:46:17 +0000 http://techliberation.com/2006/05/23/the-future-of-music/#comment-54671 I wonder if Singleton would consider eMusic marginal? Probably, though 12% of the U.S. market seems pretty major to me.<br><br>I just did a quick survey, and 7 out of the last 10 "albums" I downloaded off iTunes are available at eMusic. I could have saved 50 bucks AND saved myself the hassle of removing Apple's DRM crud. Methinks Apple will be getting less of my entertainment dollar going forward... I wonder if Singleton would consider eMusic marginal? Probably, though 12% of the U.S. market seems pretty major to me.

I just did a quick survey, and 7 out of the last 10 “albums” I downloaded off iTunes are available at eMusic. I could have saved 50 bucks AND saved myself the hassle of removing Apple’s DRM crud. Methinks Apple will be getting less of my entertainment dollar going forward…

]]> By: Doug Lay http://techliberation.com/2006/05/23/the-future-of-music/#comment-33566 Doug Lay Tue, 23 May 2006 21:46:17 +0000 http://techliberation.com/2006/05/23/the-future-of-music/#comment-33566 I wonder if Singleton would consider eMusic marginal? Probably, though 12% of the U.S. market seems pretty major to me. I just did a quick survey, and 7 out of the last 10 "albums" I downloaded off iTunes are available at eMusic. I could have saved 50 bucks AND saved myself the hassle of removing Apple's DRM crud. Methinks Apple will be getting less of my entertainment dollar going forward... I wonder if Singleton would consider eMusic marginal? Probably, though 12% of the U.S. market seems pretty major to me.

I just did a quick survey, and 7 out of the last 10 “albums” I downloaded off iTunes are available at eMusic. I could have saved 50 bucks AND saved myself the hassle of removing Apple’s DRM crud. Methinks Apple will be getting less of my entertainment dollar going forward…

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