Comments on: A Correction on Linux DVD Players http://techliberation.com/2006/05/08/a-correction-on-linux-dvd-players/ Keeping politicians' hands off the Net & everything else related to technology Tue, 14 Feb 2012 19:26:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: PLN http://techliberation.com/2006/05/08/a-correction-on-linux-dvd-players/comment-page-1/#comment-48656 PLN Tue, 09 May 2006 18:14:17 +0000 http://techliberation.com/2006/05/08/a-correction-on-linux-dvd-players/#comment-48656 <p>My comment yesterday seems to have been eaten--are you sure the Linspire is legit? It claims to be based on the Xine player, but that's GPLd--and Linspire claims to be closed source. Isn't that a GPL violation? It would be amusing if the only 'legit' player were itself an infringing derivative work...</p> My comment yesterday seems to have been eaten–are you sure the Linspire is legit? It claims to be based on the Xine player, but that’s GPLd–and Linspire claims to be closed source. Isn’t that a GPL violation? It would be amusing if the only ‘legit’ player were itself an infringing derivative work…

]]> By: PLN http://techliberation.com/2006/05/08/a-correction-on-linux-dvd-players/comment-page-1/#comment-33351 PLN Tue, 09 May 2006 17:14:17 +0000 http://techliberation.com/2006/05/08/a-correction-on-linux-dvd-players/#comment-33351 <p>My comment yesterday seems to have been eaten--are you sure the Linspire is legit? It claims to be based on the Xine player, but that's GPLd--and Linspire claims to be closed source. Isn't that a GPL violation? It would be amusing if the only 'legit' player were itself an infringing derivative work...</p> My comment yesterday seems to have been eaten–are you sure the Linspire is legit? It claims to be based on the Xine player, but that’s GPLd–and Linspire claims to be closed source. Isn’t that a GPL violation? It would be amusing if the only ‘legit’ player were itself an infringing derivative work…

]]> By: indyken http://techliberation.com/2006/05/08/a-correction-on-linux-dvd-players/comment-page-1/#comment-48655 indyken Tue, 09 May 2006 14:53:40 +0000 http://techliberation.com/2006/05/08/a-correction-on-linux-dvd-players/#comment-48655 <p>Also, Turbo Linux from Japan sold a Cyberlink PowerDVD on Linux back in 2004.</p> <p><br></p> <p>See their <a href="http://www.turbolinux.com/company/news/2004/040722.html" rel="nofollow">Press release</a>.</p> Also, Turbo Linux from Japan sold a Cyberlink PowerDVD on Linux back in 2004.


See their Press release.

]]> By: indyken http://techliberation.com/2006/05/08/a-correction-on-linux-dvd-players/comment-page-1/#comment-33350 indyken Tue, 09 May 2006 13:53:40 +0000 http://techliberation.com/2006/05/08/a-correction-on-linux-dvd-players/#comment-33350 <p>Also, Turbo Linux from Japan sold a Cyberlink PowerDVD on Linux back in 2004.</p> <p>See their <a href="http://www.turbolinux.com/company/news/2004/040722.html" rel="nofollow">Press release</a>.</p> Also, Turbo Linux from Japan sold a Cyberlink PowerDVD on Linux back in 2004.

See their Press release.

]]> By: Doug Lay http://techliberation.com/2006/05/08/a-correction-on-linux-dvd-players/comment-page-1/#comment-48654 Doug Lay Tue, 09 May 2006 13:50:43 +0000 http://techliberation.com/2006/05/08/a-correction-on-linux-dvd-players/#comment-48654 <p>Ouch. Well, no paper is perfect :)<br><br>Clearly the issue isn't a lack of licensed Linux DVD players (after all, the TiVo units with DVD-R capability presumably include a CSS license), but a lack of licensed open source players. The requirement to "hide the keys" would appear to be completely incompatible with open source development - or am I missing something?<br><br>Here's something that may cheer you up, if you haven't seen it already. One of the country's leading copyright lawyers dissing the DMCA:<br><br><a href="http://williampatry.blogspot.com/2006/04/dmca-successful-in-what.html">http://williampatry.blogspot.com/2006/04/dmca-s...</a></p> Ouch. Well, no paper is perfect :)

Clearly the issue isn’t a lack of licensed Linux DVD players (after all, the TiVo units with DVD-R capability presumably include a CSS license), but a lack of licensed open source players. The requirement to “hide the keys” would appear to be completely incompatible with open source development – or am I missing something?

Here’s something that may cheer you up, if you haven’t seen it already. One of the country’s leading copyright lawyers dissing the DMCA:

http://williampatry.blogspot.com/2006/04/dmca-s…

]]> By: Doug Lay http://techliberation.com/2006/05/08/a-correction-on-linux-dvd-players/comment-page-1/#comment-33349 Doug Lay Tue, 09 May 2006 12:50:43 +0000 http://techliberation.com/2006/05/08/a-correction-on-linux-dvd-players/#comment-33349 <p>Ouch. Well, no paper is perfect :)</p> <p>Clearly the issue isn't a lack of licensed Linux DVD players (after all, the TiVo units with DVD-R capability presumably include a CSS license), but a lack of licensed open source players. The requirement to "hide the keys" would appear to be completely incompatible with open source development - or am I missing something?</p> <p>Here's something that may cheer you up, if you haven't seen it already. One of the country's leading copyright lawyers dissing the DMCA:</p> <p>http://williampatry.blogspot.com/2006/04/dmca-successful-in-what.html</p> Ouch. Well, no paper is perfect :)

Clearly the issue isn’t a lack of licensed Linux DVD players (after all, the TiVo units with DVD-R capability presumably include a CSS license), but a lack of licensed open source players. The requirement to “hide the keys” would appear to be completely incompatible with open source development – or am I missing something?

Here’s something that may cheer you up, if you haven’t seen it already. One of the country’s leading copyright lawyers dissing the DMCA:

http://williampatry.blogspot.com/2006/04/dmca-successful-in-what.html

]]> By: Urijah http://techliberation.com/2006/05/08/a-correction-on-linux-dvd-players/comment-page-1/#comment-48653 Urijah Tue, 09 May 2006 00:00:49 +0000 http://techliberation.com/2006/05/08/a-correction-on-linux-dvd-players/#comment-48653 <p>The Linspire player is only for Linspire 4.5+, not for any Linux distribution though, and Linspire is not fully GPL compliant, which makes it ideologically problematic for many people, (though Freespire is coming out soon--no idea if it will work with the player.) Also Linspire is really oriented to the beginner Linux user, and would is not attractive to the experienced Linux user.</p> The Linspire player is only for Linspire 4.5+, not for any Linux distribution though, and Linspire is not fully GPL compliant, which makes it ideologically problematic for many people, (though Freespire is coming out soon–no idea if it will work with the player.) Also Linspire is really oriented to the beginner Linux user, and would is not attractive to the experienced Linux user.

]]> By: PLN http://techliberation.com/2006/05/08/a-correction-on-linux-dvd-players/comment-page-1/#comment-48652 PLN Mon, 08 May 2006 23:47:21 +0000 http://techliberation.com/2006/05/08/a-correction-on-linux-dvd-players/#comment-48652 <p>I'm a bit puzzled--I looked at Linspire's site, and it <a href="http://www.linspire.com/lindows_products_details.php?product_id=11804&pg=description" rel="nofollow">claims</a> it is based on the <a href="http://xinehq.de/index.php/about" rel="nofollow">Xine</a> player. But the Xine player is GPLd--so wouldn't Linspire's player have to be, as well? Yet <a href="http://www.linspire.com/lindows_products_details.php?product_id=11804&pg=specs" rel="nofollow">here</a> it claims to be "closed source".<br><br>Is this a GPL violation, or am I just being trigger-happy? It sure would be amusing if the only "legit" Linux player was actually an infringing derivative work.<br><br>PLN</p> I’m a bit puzzled–I looked at Linspire’s site, and it claims it is based on the Xine player. But the Xine player is GPLd–so wouldn’t Linspire’s player have to be, as well? Yet here it claims to be “closed source”.

Is this a GPL violation, or am I just being trigger-happy? It sure would be amusing if the only “legit” Linux player was actually an infringing derivative work.

PLN

]]> By: Urijah http://techliberation.com/2006/05/08/a-correction-on-linux-dvd-players/comment-page-1/#comment-33348 Urijah Mon, 08 May 2006 23:00:49 +0000 http://techliberation.com/2006/05/08/a-correction-on-linux-dvd-players/#comment-33348 <p>The Linspire player is only for Linspire 4.5+, not for any Linux distribution though, and Linspire is not fully GPL compliant, which makes it ideologically problematic for many people, (though Freespire is coming out soon--no idea if it will work with the player.) Also Linspire is really oriented to the beginner Linux user, and would is not attractive to the experienced Linux user.</p> The Linspire player is only for Linspire 4.5+, not for any Linux distribution though, and Linspire is not fully GPL compliant, which makes it ideologically problematic for many people, (though Freespire is coming out soon–no idea if it will work with the player.) Also Linspire is really oriented to the beginner Linux user, and would is not attractive to the experienced Linux user.

]]> By: PLN http://techliberation.com/2006/05/08/a-correction-on-linux-dvd-players/comment-page-1/#comment-33347 PLN Mon, 08 May 2006 22:47:21 +0000 http://techliberation.com/2006/05/08/a-correction-on-linux-dvd-players/#comment-33347 <p>I'm a bit puzzled--I looked at Linspire's site, and it <a href="http://www.linspire.com/lindows_products_details.php?product_id=11804&pg=description" rel="nofollow">claims</a> it is based on the <a href="http://xinehq.de/index.php/about" rel="nofollow">Xine</a> player. But the Xine player is GPLd--so wouldn't Linspire's player have to be, as well? Yet <a href="http://www.linspire.com/lindows_products_details.php?product_id=11804&pg=specs" rel="nofollow">here</a> it claims to be "closed source".</p> <p>Is this a GPL violation, or am I just being trigger-happy? It sure would be amusing if the only "legit" Linux player was actually an infringing derivative work.</p> <p>PLN</p> I’m a bit puzzled–I looked at Linspire’s site, and it claims it is based on the Xine player. But the Xine player is GPLd–so wouldn’t Linspire’s player have to be, as well? Yet here it claims to be “closed source”.

Is this a GPL violation, or am I just being trigger-happy? It sure would be amusing if the only “legit” Linux player was actually an infringing derivative work.

PLN

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