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		<title>By: wooden toys, barbie girl, jigsaw puzzles, doll furniture, rocking horse</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2005/11/29/property-is-property/comment-page-1/#comment-32346</link>
		<dc:creator>wooden toys, barbie girl, jigsaw puzzles, doll furniture, rocking horse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Mar 2006 17:30:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: wooden toys, barbie girl, jigs</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2005/11/29/property-is-property/comment-page-1/#comment-55145</link>
		<dc:creator>wooden toys, barbie girl, jigs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Mar 2006 17:30:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;www.toycity.biz&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;wooden toys, barbie girl, jigsaw puzzles, doll furniture, rocking horse&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;www.toycity.biz&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;www.toycity.biz&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: idiot</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2005/11/29/property-is-property/comment-page-1/#comment-32345</link>
		<dc:creator>idiot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jan 2006 04:19:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;i am an idiot and i am lead by richard simmons&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: idiot</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2005/11/29/property-is-property/comment-page-1/#comment-55144</link>
		<dc:creator>idiot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jan 2006 04:19:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;i am an idiot and i am lead by richard simmons&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: Cog</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2005/11/29/property-is-property/comment-page-1/#comment-32344</link>
		<dc:creator>Cog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Dec 2005 20:05:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I also find the assessment that there&#039;s not &quot;too much damage&quot; to be both shortsighted and premature.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It&#039;s shortsighted because opening an exploitable vulnerability on somebody&#039;s machine (and this has infected at least &lt;em&gt;half a million&lt;/em&gt; machines) is already quite significant damage, even if there are no burning buildings.  At a minimum, network administrators will have to spend a great deal of expensive labor to clean up this mess.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It&#039;s premature in the sense that this root vulnerability&#039;s not going to go away any time soon.  The CDs will remain in circulation essentially forever, and (extrapolating from previous worm infections) there will be significant numbers of old unpatched and infected machines on the Internet for at least a decade.  Any time a band of crackers wants to bootstrap a botnet, this will be one more pool of targets for them.  The full damages from this rootkit are going to be felt by the Internet for years to come.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also find the assessment that there&#8217;s not &#8220;too much damage&#8221; to be both shortsighted and premature.</p>

<p>It&#8217;s shortsighted because opening an exploitable vulnerability on somebody&#8217;s machine (and this has infected at least <em>half a million</em> machines) is already quite significant damage, even if there are no burning buildings.  At a minimum, network administrators will have to spend a great deal of expensive labor to clean up this mess.</p>

<p>It&#8217;s premature in the sense that this root vulnerability&#8217;s not going to go away any time soon.  The CDs will remain in circulation essentially forever, and (extrapolating from previous worm infections) there will be significant numbers of old unpatched and infected machines on the Internet for at least a decade.  Any time a band of crackers wants to bootstrap a botnet, this will be one more pool of targets for them.  The full damages from this rootkit are going to be felt by the Internet for years to come.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Cog</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2005/11/29/property-is-property/comment-page-1/#comment-55143</link>
		<dc:creator>Cog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Dec 2005 20:05:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I also find the assessment that there&#039;s not &quot;too much damage&quot; to be both shortsighted and premature.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It&#039;s shortsighted because opening an exploitable vulnerability on somebody&#039;s machine (and this has infected at least &lt;em&gt;half a million&lt;/em&gt; machines) is already quite significant damage, even if there are no burning buildings.  At a minimum, network administrators will have to spend a great deal of expensive labor to clean up this mess.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It&#039;s premature in the sense that this root vulnerability&#039;s not going to go away any time soon.  The CDs will remain in circulation essentially forever, and (extrapolating from previous worm infections) there will be significant numbers of old unpatched and infected machines on the Internet for at least a decade.  Any time a band of crackers wants to bootstrap a botnet, this will be one more pool of targets for them.  The full damages from this rootkit are going to be felt by the Internet for years to come.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also find the assessment that there&#8217;s not &#8220;too much damage&#8221; to be both shortsighted and premature.<br /><br />It&#8217;s shortsighted because opening an exploitable vulnerability on somebody&#8217;s machine (and this has infected at least <em>half a million</em> machines) is already quite significant damage, even if there are no burning buildings.  At a minimum, network administrators will have to spend a great deal of expensive labor to clean up this mess.<br /><br />It&#8217;s premature in the sense that this root vulnerability&#8217;s not going to go away any time soon.  The CDs will remain in circulation essentially forever, and (extrapolating from previous worm infections) there will be significant numbers of old unpatched and infected machines on the Internet for at least a decade.  Any time a band of crackers wants to bootstrap a botnet, this will be one more pool of targets for them.  The full damages from this rootkit are going to be felt by the Internet for years to come.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: enigma_foundry</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2005/11/29/property-is-property/comment-page-1/#comment-32343</link>
		<dc:creator>enigma_foundry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Dec 2005 03:39:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Even big corporations.--No especially big corporations--This is where the free market comes in--if Gnu/Linux options are available, stuff like this is much less likely to occur--open source code and stuff like this gets pretty easy to spot--which is why these big corporations have so much to lose if they can&#039;t stop GPL software--which is why those who really care about freeedom have to support it.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even big corporations.&#8211;No especially big corporations&#8211;This is where the free market comes in&#8211;if Gnu/Linux options are available, stuff like this is much less likely to occur&#8211;open source code and stuff like this gets pretty easy to spot&#8211;which is why these big corporations have so much to lose if they can&#8217;t stop GPL software&#8211;which is why those who really care about freeedom have to support it.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: eee_eff</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2005/11/29/property-is-property/comment-page-1/#comment-55142</link>
		<dc:creator>eee_eff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Dec 2005 03:39:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Even big corporations.--No especially big corporations--This is where the free market comes in--if Gnu/Linux options are available, stuff like this is much less likely to occur--open source code and stuff like this gets pretty easy to spot--which is why these big corporations have so much to lose if they can&#039;t stop GPL software--which is why those who really care about freeedom have to support it.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even big corporations.&#8211;No especially big corporations&#8211;This is where the free market comes in&#8211;if Gnu/Linux options are available, stuff like this is much less likely to occur&#8211;open source code and stuff like this gets pretty easy to spot&#8211;which is why these big corporations have so much to lose if they can&#8217;t stop GPL software&#8211;which is why those who really care about freeedom have to support it.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Walter E. Wallis</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2005/11/29/property-is-property/comment-page-1/#comment-32342</link>
		<dc:creator>Walter E. Wallis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Nov 2005 21:04:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I am billing Tribal $100/day for cpu rent. No payment yet, but I am considering a small claim action or, if I can find an attorney, a class action lawsuit against all companies using Tribal&#039; services.
Any program that does not appear in the program directory and have a functional remove program should be considered illegal spyware and any company that uses spyware services should share criminal liability.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am billing Tribal $100/day for cpu rent. No payment yet, but I am considering a small claim action or, if I can find an attorney, a class action lawsuit against all companies using Tribal&#8217; services.
Any program that does not appear in the program directory and have a functional remove program should be considered illegal spyware and any company that uses spyware services should share criminal liability.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Walter E. Wallis</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2005/11/29/property-is-property/comment-page-1/#comment-55141</link>
		<dc:creator>Walter E. Wallis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Nov 2005 21:04:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I am billing Tribal $100/day for cpu rent. No payment yet, but I am considering a small claim action or, if I can find an attorney, a class action lawsuit against all companies using Tribal&#039; services.&lt;br&gt;Any program that does not appear in the program directory and have a functional remove program should be considered illegal spyware and any company that uses spyware services should share criminal liability.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am billing Tribal $100/day for cpu rent. No payment yet, but I am considering a small claim action or, if I can find an attorney, a class action lawsuit against all companies using Tribal&#8217; services.<br />Any program that does not appear in the program directory and have a functional remove program should be considered illegal spyware and any company that uses spyware services should share criminal liability.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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