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	<title>Comments on: RE: Phishing for Solutions to Online Crime</title>
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		<title>By: KyleX</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2004/08/17/re-phishing-for-solutions-to-online-crime/comment-page-1/#comment-55885</link>
		<dc:creator>KyleX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Apr 2006 00:27:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Great stuff. Your blog is cool to read. KyleX&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great stuff. Your blog is cool to read. KyleX</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: KyleX</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2004/08/17/re-phishing-for-solutions-to-online-crime/comment-page-1/#comment-29638</link>
		<dc:creator>KyleX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Apr 2006 23:27:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Great stuff. Your blog is cool to read. KyleX&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great stuff. Your blog is cool to read. KyleX</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Allison Trump</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2004/08/17/re-phishing-for-solutions-to-online-crime/comment-page-1/#comment-29637</link>
		<dc:creator>Allison Trump</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Feb 2006 05:22:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Allison Trump</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2004/08/17/re-phishing-for-solutions-to-online-crime/comment-page-1/#comment-55884</link>
		<dc:creator>Allison Trump</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Feb 2006 05:22:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;This is cool, you have to try it.  I guessed 66218, and this game guessed it!  See it here - &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.funbrain.com/guess/&quot;&gt;http://www.funbrain.com/guess/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is cool, you have to try it.  I guessed 66218, and this game guessed it!  See it here &#8211; <a href="http://www.funbrain.com/guess/">http://www.funbrain.com/guess/</a></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Scott Dier</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2004/08/17/re-phishing-for-solutions-to-online-crime/comment-page-1/#comment-55883</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Dier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Aug 2004 08:10:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m sort of surprised that you think a market doesn&#039;t exactly exist.  Look at the IETF MARID group, which is quickly coming up with a standard to attempt to quash such attacks by making it hard to fake @yourbank.com.  Microsoft, yahoo, &lt;a href=&quot;http://pobox.com&quot;&gt;pobox.com&lt;/a&gt;, earthlink, aol, and others are all evaluating technologies that verify that the sender is correct and will stop phishing scams that misrepresent the senders email address.  It is expected that as soon as a standard is easily configured on the majority of mailservers that the major players will require it to communicate messages with their users.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;There&#039;s a market, and the technology is coming.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In any case, most phishing attacks are a form of fraud because of the misrepresentation of identity -- I&#039;m fairly sure that is covered (gasp!) under the CAN-SPAM act.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sort of surprised that you think a market doesn&#8217;t exactly exist.  Look at the IETF MARID group, which is quickly coming up with a standard to attempt to quash such attacks by making it hard to fake @yourbank.com.  Microsoft, yahoo, <a href="http://pobox.com">pobox.com</a>, earthlink, aol, and others are all evaluating technologies that verify that the sender is correct and will stop phishing scams that misrepresent the senders email address.  It is expected that as soon as a standard is easily configured on the majority of mailservers that the major players will require it to communicate messages with their users.<br /><br />There&#8217;s a market, and the technology is coming.<br /><br />In any case, most phishing attacks are a form of fraud because of the misrepresentation of identity &#8212; I&#8217;m fairly sure that is covered (gasp!) under the CAN-SPAM act.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Scott Dier</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2004/08/17/re-phishing-for-solutions-to-online-crime/comment-page-1/#comment-29636</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Dier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Aug 2004 07:10:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m sort of surprised that you think a market doesn&#039;t exactly exist.  Look at the IETF MARID group, which is quickly coming up with a standard to attempt to quash such attacks by making it hard to fake @yourbank.com.  Microsoft, yahoo, pobox.com, earthlink, aol, and others are all evaluating technologies that verify that the sender is correct and will stop phishing scams that misrepresent the senders email address.  It is expected that as soon as a standard is easily configured on the majority of mailservers that the major players will require it to communicate messages with their users.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;There&#039;s a market, and the technology is coming.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;In any case, most phishing attacks are a form of fraud because of the misrepresentation of identity -- I&#039;m fairly sure that is covered (gasp!) under the CAN-SPAM act.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sort of surprised that you think a market doesn&#8217;t exactly exist.  Look at the IETF MARID group, which is quickly coming up with a standard to attempt to quash such attacks by making it hard to fake @yourbank.com.  Microsoft, yahoo, pobox.com, earthlink, aol, and others are all evaluating technologies that verify that the sender is correct and will stop phishing scams that misrepresent the senders email address.  It is expected that as soon as a standard is easily configured on the majority of mailservers that the major players will require it to communicate messages with their users.</p>

<p>There&#8217;s a market, and the technology is coming.</p>

<p>In any case, most phishing attacks are a form of fraud because of the misrepresentation of identity &#8212; I&#8217;m fairly sure that is covered (gasp!) under the CAN-SPAM act.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2004/08/17/re-phishing-for-solutions-to-online-crime/comment-page-1/#comment-55882</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Aug 2004 18:30:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Since phishing attacks are correlated to firm size and brand id or equity, the law would actually disadvantage larger firms relative to new entrants since it would relieve them of some of the burden of defending their brand equity.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The costs of phishing are distributed in a disparate fashion, which makes the case for a society-wide, collective response less compelling.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since phishing attacks are correlated to firm size and brand id or equity, the law would actually disadvantage larger firms relative to new entrants since it would relieve them of some of the burden of defending their brand equity.<br /><br />The costs of phishing are distributed in a disparate fashion, which makes the case for a society-wide, collective response less compelling.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2004/08/17/re-phishing-for-solutions-to-online-crime/comment-page-1/#comment-29635</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Aug 2004 17:30:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Since phishing attacks are correlated to firm size and brand id or equity, the law would actually disadvantage larger firms relative to new entrants since it would relieve them of some of the burden of defending their brand equity.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The costs of phishing are distributed in a disparate fashion, which makes the case for a society-wide, collective response less compelling.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since phishing attacks are correlated to firm size and brand id or equity, the law would actually disadvantage larger firms relative to new entrants since it would relieve them of some of the burden of defending their brand equity.</p>

<p>The costs of phishing are distributed in a disparate fashion, which makes the case for a society-wide, collective response less compelling.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Henry Clay</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2004/08/17/re-phishing-for-solutions-to-online-crime/comment-page-1/#comment-55881</link>
		<dc:creator>Henry Clay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Aug 2004 16:10:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;By treating this solely as a financial services industry problem, but brushing off the other 23% of victims, is there any potential that you end up increasing barriers to entry in those other industries that suffer phishing attacks?  In other words, if no legislation is necessary because we&#039;re willing to allow large entities to continue to defend their brands, what does that do to, say, an upstart competitor to eBay?  Obviously that upstart won&#039;t instantly be a target because the phishers won&#039;t go after them until they have &lt;em&gt;some&lt;/em&gt; brand ID, and perhaps that&#039;s the answer to my question.....&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;HC&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By treating this solely as a financial services industry problem, but brushing off the other 23% of victims, is there any potential that you end up increasing barriers to entry in those other industries that suffer phishing attacks?  In other words, if no legislation is necessary because we&#8217;re willing to allow large entities to continue to defend their brands, what does that do to, say, an upstart competitor to eBay?  Obviously that upstart won&#8217;t instantly be a target because the phishers won&#8217;t go after them until they have <em>some</em> brand ID, and perhaps that&#8217;s the answer to my question&#8230;..<br /><br />HC</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Henry Clay</title>
		<link>http://techliberation.com/2004/08/17/re-phishing-for-solutions-to-online-crime/comment-page-1/#comment-29634</link>
		<dc:creator>Henry Clay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Aug 2004 15:10:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;By treating this solely as a financial services industry problem, but brushing off the other 23% of victims, is there any potential that you end up increasing barriers to entry in those other industries that suffer phishing attacks?  In other words, if no legislation is necessary because we&#039;re willing to allow large entities to continue to defend their brands, what does that do to, say, an upstart competitor to eBay?  Obviously that upstart won&#039;t instantly be a target because the phishers won&#039;t go after them until they have &lt;em&gt;some&lt;/em&gt; brand ID, and perhaps that&#039;s the answer to my question.....&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;HC&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By treating this solely as a financial services industry problem, but brushing off the other 23% of victims, is there any potential that you end up increasing barriers to entry in those other industries that suffer phishing attacks?  In other words, if no legislation is necessary because we&#8217;re willing to allow large entities to continue to defend their brands, what does that do to, say, an upstart competitor to eBay?  Obviously that upstart won&#8217;t instantly be a target because the phishers won&#8217;t go after them until they have <em>some</em> brand ID, and perhaps that&#8217;s the answer to my question&#8230;..</p>

<p>HC</p>]]></content:encoded>
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